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Old 01-03-2017, 01:36 PM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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1)The point being made by others here, is that the bible doesn't call homosexuality a sin.

2) Personally, I don't care because I know that fallible men wrote the bible and it is not "God's word". The "the Bible says it, I believe it" responses are meaningless to me.

3) So what I asked was not what the bible said, but what about a monogamous relationship between two people of the same gender is sinful. I have yet to see an answer to that question.
1A: A premise that is a lie, it's sexually immoral. They can take their immoral godless hubris back to the apparent boredom forum agnostic\atheist for anybody who cares.

2A: A premise that is not true, the Bible is God's Word.
And maybe one day this Christian forum might return to a time when that too will be a given.

3A:Once again, you're talking out of both sides of your mouth
On the one hand you insist:
So what I asked was not what the bible said,
but then demand an answer that has a Biblical answer
but what about a monogamous relationship between two people of the same gender is sinful
FYI Pleroo: "sinful" is by default a Biblical concept.

It's sinful because:

Jesus said, “Your word is truth” (John 17:17)
Jesus said, “The Scripture cannot be broken” (John 10:35)
Jesus said, (quoting Genesis 1:4 scripture)
" ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother
and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’ "
(Matthew 19:5)
God’s word that spells out that sexual relations are for men and women in marriage (Hebrews 13:4)

Jesus said that marriage is defined by God (Matthew 19:5)
God's Word commands that marriage:
"be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral." (Hebrews 13:4)
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Old 01-03-2017, 02:08 PM
 
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Once again, you have no answer beyond, "the bible says so (in my opinion)". There is nothing inherently sinful - nothing harmful nor unloving -- about a monogamous relationship between two people, whether they are of the same or opposite gender.
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Old 01-03-2017, 02:11 PM
 
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Once again, you have no answer beyond, "the bible says so (in my opinion)". There is nothing inherently sinful - nothing harmful nor unloving -- about a monogamous relationship between two people, whether they are of the same or opposite gender.
Then you know nothing of honor.
Or do you deny that your own mother conceived you?
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Old 01-03-2017, 02:13 PM
 
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Then you know nothing of honor.
Or do you deny that your own mother conceived you?
What?
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Old 01-03-2017, 02:25 PM
 
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What?
The Truth is not that complicated.

Did a woman conceive you?
And do you call her Mother?
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Old 01-03-2017, 02:28 PM
 
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The Truth is not that complicated.

Did a woman conceive you?
And do you call her Mother?
Yes and yes.
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Old 01-03-2017, 03:04 PM
 
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Yes and yes.
Thankyou
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Old 01-03-2017, 03:05 PM
 
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Thankyou
Any time.
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Old 01-03-2017, 03:12 PM
 
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Any time.
Now then think on who begat you?
Was it Mom?
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Old 01-03-2017, 03:28 PM
 
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Now then think on who begat you?
Was it Mom?
Pin, could we speed this up just a bit? What does this have to do with my post to which you responded:

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There is nothing inherently sinful - nothing harmful nor unloving -- about a monogamous relationship between two people, whether they are of the same or opposite gender.
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