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Old 12-24-2016, 04:33 PM
 
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How is premeditated Not on purpose. Sinning by mistake is by accident.

I think you already know Adam sinned on purpose. Adam in effect committed suicide.
Only Eve was deceived. She blamed Satan ( that old snake in the grass ) but Adam knew what he was doing was deliberate.
Apparently he did Not want to live without Eve, and even blamed God for giving Eve to him.

Adam "killed himself" before that. When he called her Eve, the separation of soul and spirit had begun. G-d called THEM Adam; Adam named her Eve like one of the beasts of the field. Peace
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Old 12-24-2016, 04:40 PM
 
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Adam "killed himself" before that. When he called her Eve, the separation of soul and spirit had begun. G-d called THEM Adam; Adam named her Eve like one of the beasts of the field. Peace
According to the reason Adam named his wife Eve at Genesis 3:20 is because she (Eve) was the mother of all living.
Not the mother of all animals but the mother of all humans. Animals, beasts of the field, already existed before Eve.
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Old 12-24-2016, 04:43 PM
 
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According to the reason Adam named his wife Eve at Genesis 3:20 is because she (Eve) was the mother of all living.
Not the mother of all animals but the mother of all humans. Animals, beasts of the field, already existed before Eve.

Again, a misnomer because Eve wasn't the mother of all living. G-d framed the world with wisdom. He wasn't honoring Father and Mother. Peace
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Old 12-24-2016, 04:52 PM
 
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How is premeditated Not on purpose. Sinning by mistake is by accident.

I think you already know Adam sinned on purpose. Adam in effect committed suicide.
Only Eve was deceived. She blamed Satan ( that old snake in the grass ) but Adam knew what he was doing was deliberate.
Apparently he did Not want to live without Eve, and even blamed God for giving Eve to him.
I cannot understand how you cannot see that wrong action whether willful or intentional is a mistake. Do you not see to willfully do wrong is a mistake in the first place. Sin is sin, and sin is not what you guys swamped in primitive beliefs think, it is unbelief and nothing more, and sin is not what needs addressing but unbelief, and not unbelief in the bible too.
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Old 12-24-2016, 05:10 PM
 
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There is the unforgivable sin according to Matthew 12:32; Hebrews 6:4-6
If ALL sin was equal then ALL sin would be unforgivable according to the above verses.
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Old 12-24-2016, 05:30 PM
 
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There is the unforgivable sin according to Matthew 12:32; Hebrews 6:4-6
If ALL sin was equal then ALL sin would be unforgivable according to the above verses.
Cop out. Not a problem though.
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Old 12-24-2016, 07:22 PM
 
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It's only a matter of time until they tell the churches the same.

State forbids pastors calling homosexuality ‘sinful’
Well Denmark has forced churches to conduct gay weddings, even if the pastor opposes this.

In 2012, Denmark’s parliament legislated a law that required all churches to perform same-sex marriages. When the law passed, “Denmark’s church minister, Manu Sareen, called the vote ‘historic,’Denmark Forces Churches to Conduct Homosexual Weddings - Truth and Charity Forum

Who ever stated that the GLBT lobby would cease further lobbying after same sex marriage is legalised is well beyond me. i even heard from so called Christians that support gay marriage that churches wont be affected, and churches are free to refuse to conduct gay marriage. Say that to Denmark then.
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Old 12-25-2016, 05:47 AM
 
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It's only a matter of time until they tell the churches the same.

State forbids pastors calling homosexuality ‘sinful’



It would take a haughty hearted mortal in a govt position to try and tell the servants of God they can no longer speak truth. That one is a dreamer if he thinks any true follower will listen to him. Who does that tiny brained mortal think he is? He actually thinks he can stop Gods truth with a law-- how blind are mortals? Its the other way around bud--it will be God who stops you, not you stopping his truth.
Putin did away with The JW religion in his country--but he cannot stop it, but God will stop him-Dan 2:44 awaits him. What a little brained moron Putin is. Comes from a lack of love. If the world doesn't know already-- the main problem in this world today is it is sick in the heart.
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Old 12-25-2016, 07:54 AM
 
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Would you call calling out the sin in another pretty hypocritical if you had sin in your own life ?.

Also would you agree sin is sin, and sin is not graded on a curve?.
No. A pastor, especially, is to call people to repentance--not encourage them in their sin. That includes homosexuality, as well as other sins, like adultery, drunkenness, etc. I'm sure this idea will have people howling.
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Old 12-25-2016, 08:08 AM
 
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No. A pastor, especially, is to call people to repentance--not encourage them in their sin.
I agree. Imposing man made laws to force pastors to sin against God is...unforgivable.
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