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You must mean 200 years of SOME of Christians' history. The truth does not change, nothing new.
I think it's arrogant and naive to think that you know more than what Christianity has taught for 2000 years. Not just SOME Christians....but all of Christian orthodoxy.
1 Tim 2:12
[11] Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
[12] But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
[13] For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
Right wing Christian males will not accept women as equal, much less leaders. God made women second, from the man, for the man. Women were an after thought.
Actually...yes. I've already said that I accept women as equal. I appreciate women. Please stop lying about people you don't understand.
I think it's arrogant and naive to think that you know more than what Christianity has taught for 2000 years. Not just SOME Christians....but all of Christian orthodoxy.
I wonder about that too. That's why in the "Bible" thread post #41 I asked Nate why he hasn't written a book or a revised Bible so that we can all know the secrets of God's wisdom. I asked him this sincerely and ask it here again, because if a man truly believes he has all the answers directly and privately from the Spirit, and no one else has them, that seems like something he would want to publish and disseminate to the entire world, right?
I wonder about that too. That's why in the "Bible" thread post #41 I asked Nate why he hasn't written a book or a revised Bible so that we can all know the secrets of God's wisdom. I asked him this sincerely and ask it here again, because if a man truly believes he has all the answers directly and privately from the Spirit, and no one else has them, that seems like something he would want to publish and disseminate to the entire world, right?
Where has Nate said he has all the answers, and that no one else has answers?
Where has Nate said he has all the answers, and that no one else has answers?
Only he can answer that question, Pleroo, but if he believes he has God's truth and it is NOT the Bible, or any other extant text, why wouldn't he want to write that down and share it with as many people as possible? That's what I've been trying to understand.
I will sincerely ask the same question of all who do not believe the Bible to be inerrant. What source text or resource may us Bible believing Christians refer to so that we may try to understand your particular, personal beliefs and save everyone's time here and hasten greater understanding for all? Thank you.
Only he can answer that question, Pleroo, but if he believes he has God's truth and it is NOT the Bible, or any other extant text, why wouldn't he want to write that down and share it with as many people as possible? That's what I've been trying to understand.
I will sincerely ask the same question of all who do not believe the Bible to be inerrant. What source text or resource may us Bible believing Christians refer to so that we may try to understand your particular, personal beliefs and save everyone's time here and hasten greater understanding for all? Thank you.
If you believe the bible is inerrant - your school system, or intellect, or common sense - failed you.
Only he can answer that question, Pleroo, but if he believes he has God's truth and it is NOT the Bible, or any other extant text, why wouldn't he want to write that down and share it with as many people as possible? That's what I've been trying to understand.
I will sincerely ask the same question of all who do not believe the Bible to be inerrant. What source text or resource may us Bible believing Christians refer to so that we may try to understand your particular, personal beliefs and save everyone's time here and hasten greater understanding for all? Thank you.
Nate has been sharing the truth. And it has been rejected time and time again, and apparently misunderstood. Even by you it seems, since you are insisting that there should be some "resource text" for people to refer to, when Nate has repeatedly encouraged people to look to the Spirit for guidance.
Nate has been sharing the truth. And it has been rejected time and time again, and apparently misunderstood. Even by you it seems, since you are insisting that there should be some "resource text" for people to refer to, when Nate has repeatedly encouraged people to look to the Spirit for guidance.
In my opinion, the Spirit is the aspect of the Trinity many people struggle the most with. Entire denominations never really talk about it much and don't really talk about personal encounters with the Spirit, at least in my experience. Other churches are much more Spirit filled or Spirit led, and then there is the whole charismatic movement and the debate over cessationism. To me, this is a topic that cries out for a lot of guidance particularly if one feels that they have such a great relationship with the Spirit that they are given clear, contextual, theological discernment from the Spirit.
I would honestly and truly love to hear from Nate what that is like for him and how this truth is communicated to him because his experiences with the Spirit are, from what I can gather, perhaps different than many other peoples'. I'd love to hear about your and anyone else's experiences as well.
The worst that can happen is someone may not agree or believe what is said. The best that can happen is that someone is edified or learns how to better interact with the Spirit. Right? Or am I wrong on this?
I think it's arrogant and naive to think that you know more than what Christianity has taught for 2000 years. Not just SOME Christians....but all of Christian orthodoxy.
The Pope would have said the exact same thing to Luther and Calvin during the Reformation, no?
When I was a conservative Lutheran, we used the term "Radical Reformation" to describe some of the other reformation movements that thought Luther didn't go far enough. The more radical reformers wanted to get rid of the "real presence" of Christ in Holy Communion, infant baptism, traditional Christian imagery, etc.
In a way, the liberal Protestantism is a kind of "Ultra Radical Reformation", where "The Spirit" is the final authority instead of the Bible or the Pope. They seem to believe that True Christianity(tm) was corrupted starting with Saint Paul, long before the Evil Pope(tm) came along. Before the Evil Saint Paul messed everything up, Christianity was all about Jesus, who was a nice guy who taught peace and love helping the poor. All of the fire and brimstone stuff from the mouth of Jesus was really just hyperbole directed at the Evil Pharisees(tm), who were the Evil Fundamentalists(tm) in Jesus's day.
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