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They can use my method---there is no cultural context, just read what it says.
So there is evangelical cultural bias and there is NOT evangelical cultural bias?
Some churchgoers say SLAVERY GOOD, some churchgoers say SLAVERY BAD.
So when is slavery (or rape, or misogyny, discrimination and even murder) acceptable to the evangelical god and even to evangelicals themselves?
Seems some are at peace with these crimes, while others will condemn the crimes but not make any attempt to stop the crimes from occurring because it must be their god's will?
The verse clearly states that unless he dies, the master does not get punished, because the slave is property. To construe the eye and tooth verse as forbidding a master from beating the slave is ridiculous. It only gives the slave the two exemptions for freedom.
Then with your logic that God is perfectly fine with beating a slave, why would this verse even exist? Your interpretation stubbornly REFUSES to look at cultural context and doesn't even align with the rest of the Bible.
The bottom line is you can not find a SINGLE verse where God directly says that He approves of slavery.
Revelation 18:12"cargo of gold, silver, precious stones, and pearls; of fine linen, purple, silk, and scarlet; of all kinds of citron wood and every article of ivory and precious wood, of bronze, iron, and marble; 13of cinnamon, spice, incense, myrrh, and frankincense; of wine, olive oil, fine flour, and wheat; of cattle, sheep, horses, and chariots; of slaves and souls of men."
Traffic in slaves is no more condemned than olive oil. Where does the bolded addition to scripture come from? It seems to be a commentary on the Greek "and souls of men," which only receives condemnation in our own minds.
it is MSG, but even in another translation, the conflation with souls and barter should not be dismissed imo. A bible search of the terms slave, slavery would make this much clearer, what God thinks about slavery
This is evangelical rationalization at its best folks.
THERE WERE HAPPY SLAVES, WHY DID FREEDOM HAVE TO GO AND RUIN THAT????
How can a slave NOT be mistreated when they have no FREEDOM to leave???
This is why people see evangelicals as idiots, fools, fracktards, and cowards...
WHITE PRIVILEGE LIVES!!
Something's wrong with you...
All I'm saying is that like most things in life... it's not all bad, and it's not all good.
Slavery is not a good option. But I am not ready to proclaim all slave owners as guilty of harsh treatment just because they are slave owners.
Being that many of the Jews did have a fear of God - they probably took that fear into how they dealt with their slaves.
I know this is challenging the programming put in our heads that any person for all of eternity who owned slaves is guilty of beating, raping, and killing their property.
All I'm saying is that like most things in life... it's not all bad, and it's not all good.
Slavery is not a good option. But I am not ready to proclaim all slave owners as guilty of harsh treatment just because they are slave owners.
Being that many of the Jews did have a fear of God - they probably took that fear into how they dealt with their slaves.
I know this is challenging the programming put in our heads that any person for all of eternity who owned slaves is guilty of beating, raping, and killing their property.
There is NO justify EVIL, AT ANY LEVEL...NO EXCEPTIONS.
More or less. It's a group facilitated by an Episcopal priest (it's a course for non-clergy designed by the Episcopal seminary). Most of the participants are her parishioners. I am not, but I do attend a different Episcopal church. It's a mixed bunch. A lesbian female raised Wiccan who sought out Christianity a couple of years ago. An angry bipolar/recovering alcoholic raised Catholic. A young kid raised atheist, embraced the Greek pantheon as a teenager and now in the Episcopal church. A Jewish woman married to a Haitian Catholic woman who attends both temple and church with her wife and their daughter. A woman raised Catholic in India who brings the Hindu influences on Christianity to the discussion. A few cradle Episcopalians. Good conversations.
oh. in that group, it should have a shot. i would be curious how they receive it
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