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It is not plural " Grooms ", that the scripture uses in analogy , it is the singular " bridegroom " .
Were you not aware there is only one Christ ?
In addition hell is not an analogy in Universalist theology .
It is a place to receive a good beating and be straightened out into submission to marriage from THE BRIDEGROOM Jesus .
Where is this hell that people take a beating in order to be submissive?
Doctrines of man will not save anybody. Salvation is offered to all, but not all will accept it.
But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. - JESUS as quoted by Matthew 7:14
This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. - JESUS as quoted by John 3:19
Did JESUS know what He was talking about, or shall we believe licentious teachings of men who justify SIN so as to lead the gullible astray?
JESUS is the truth.
Those that sincerely seek truth will find it. When they do they will discover it speaks to them in no uncertain terms.
It speaks action of them they do not wish to perform. It speaks denial of SIN.
Universalism is a demonic denial of one's spiritual responsibility to deny SIN.
It is a denial of God's LAW, which requires all men to actively present themselves before God, bringing their sacrifice with them, in humble petition for forgiveness of SIN. No priest or doctrine of man can do it for us. We must come individually before God. If we do not do so personally, then it will not be given.
(Read Exodus & Leviticus)
The LAW stands.
It has not been subverted destroyed or replaced by licentious grace.
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. - JESUS as quoted by Matthew 5:17
"you do not have because you do not ask." - James 4:2b
One must ASK for salvation. It is not automatically given to all. It is offered, but not received by all.
Beware the doctrines of man which seek to subvert the designs of Almighty God. Run, do not walk, away from them.
Then I heard another voice from heaven say: "'Come out of her, my people,' so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues; - Revelation 18:4
No such thing as eternal punishment ...but, not all will enter the kingdom of heaven in the here and now.
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Originally Posted by Jerwade
Where is this hell that people take a beating in order to be submissive?
Hell is the place of non-eternal punishment where the beating applied to the prospective bride is only sufficient to force submission to the Bridegroom that has been detailed by you and others in misguided
universalist theology .
Would you like to revise your statement concerning this place of " punishment " that is not eternal ?
No such thing as eternal punishment ...but, not all will enter the kingdom of heaven in the here and now.
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Originally Posted by Jerwade
Where is this hell that people take a beating in order to be submissive?
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Originally Posted by unfailing presence
Hell is the place of non-eternal punishment where the beating applied to the prospective bride is only sufficient to force submission to the Bridegroom that has been detailed by you and others in misguided
universalist theology .
Would you like to revise your statement concerning this place of " punishment " that is not eternal ?
When did I ever say there was a place of punishment? And, where do you get the notion that a beating applies to the prospective bride, sufficiently to "force submission" to the Bridegroom? Apparently, you are projecting your own thoughts on others?
Hell is the place of non-eternal punishment where the beating applied to the prospective bride is only sufficient to force submission to the Bridegroom that has been detailed by you and others in misguided
universalist theology .
Would you like to revise your statement concerning this place of " punishment " that is not eternal ?
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Originally Posted by Jerwade
When did I ever say there was a place of punishment? And, where do you get the notion that a beating applies to the prospective bride, sufficiently to "force submission" to the Bridegroom? Apparently, you are projecting your own thoughts on others?
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Originally Posted by unfailing presence
What the "Hell" is this " Lake of Fire " you are going on about then, some new kind of spa treatment ?
The purpose of the Lake of Fire is to remove the dross, (even death itself) and purify, wrong thinking.
When you remove a false ideology or notion, it doesn't require a beating into forceful submissiveness?
A lake is a haven or place of safety (a harbor), not one where you are thrown to, and fro with the whip?
However, if it is a spa, then I would hope a glass of white wine is served. And clothing would be optional.
The purpose of the Lake of Fire is to remove the dross, (even death itself) and purify, wrong thinking.
When you remove a false ideology or notion, it doesn't require a beating into forceful submissiveness?
A lake is a haven or place of safety (a harbor), not one where you are thrown to, and fro with the whip?
However, if it is a spa, then I would hope a glass of white wine is served. And clothing would be optional.
The problem is the perception that physical beings are or can be punished spiritually eternally, it does not make sense
What I see when referring to the scriptures is a need to compare like with like
And yep religious people have taken words which are symbols and combined them with the physical, instead of understanding the underlying meaning behind the words
The problem is the perception that physical beings are or can be punished spiritually eternally, it does not make sense
What I see when referring to the scriptures is a need to compare like with like
And yep religious people have taken words which are symbols and combined them with the physical, instead of understanding the underlying meaning behind the words
The punishment for the unrepentant Spirit/Mind, is eternal. "ETERNAL OBLIVION."
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