The Lure of Sin

[Jerwade]

Originally Posted by Jerwade

I don't mind sarcasm, it's ignorance that is disturbing. You still have not addressed why the Lake (of fire) is a place of safety, a refuge or haven, according to the Greek language, not the false interpretation of hellfire and damnation that you believe.

Originally Posted by justbyfaith

If it is a place of safety, why is there "wailing and gnashing of teeth" therein?

I will say again that 1 Corinthians 2:13 (kjv) gives us a biblical hermeneutic that we are to follow.

So, when we compare spiritual things with spiritual, and combine Matthew 13:41-42 and Matthew 13:49-50 with Matthew 25:46, we find that there is an everlasting punishment coming for the sinner that is defined by "wailing and gnashing of teeth"

Originally Posted by Jerwade

I have no doubt that you will experience the psychological anguish of wailing and gnashing your teeth, while in the safety and presence of Christ Jesus as he removes that false ideology that you hold dear to your mind and heart. Especially, when you realize the errors of your thoughts, deeds, and actions as you have attempted to lead many astray in your ignorance or lack of knowledge. And you have absolutely no spiritual discernment, nor wisdom for that matter.

Originally Posted by justbyfaith

If Jesus Himself tells me that He really meant "age-abiding" torments in Matthew 25:46, then I will believe Him immediately and will not have to experience any psychological anguish.

However, I don't think that He meant that; because IF He meant that, then in John 3:16, He meant to promise mere "age-abiding" life; and that would seem to me to be life that ends when the age ends.

Since we are currently in the age of grace; which will end when the Great Tribulation starts; I think that by that time, if you are correct, my "age-abiding" life will have ended; therefore I will be dead as concerning everlasting life.

So, at that point, I will either cease to have consciousness or else my consciousness will continue in a form that is not defined by life.

What might my consciousness experience if it is not experiencing life?

I think that it would have to be the "wailing and gnashing of teeth" that is spoken of by Jesus Christ;

And therefore, there is condemnation for all those who have "age-abiding" life; since when that life ends, they will experience "wailing and gnashing of teeth". And how long will that experience last? To the end of the next age? Will there then be an age of bliss that will also end; since there is also mere age-abiding life in that age? And what comes after? Another age of "wailing and gnashing of teeth".

So, it appears that the ultimate conclusion of your theology is that we will go from age to age, from bliss to torment to bliss to torment to bliss to torment, ad infinitum.

This is your good news?

I thought Charlie said he was bringing someone to the forum that everyone would run from? You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, neither do you understand the age(s). The underlined is the stupidest, and most ignorant thing that I have heard a person say, but then again, you have no comprehension, whatsoever.


Be careful when pulling the petals from that flower of, he loves me, he loves me, not.

[justbyfaith]

Originally Posted by Jerwade

I thought Charlie said he was bringing someone to the forum that everyone would run from? You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, neither do you understand the age(s). The underlined is the stupidest, and most ignorant thing that I have heard a person say, but then again, you have no comprehension, whatsoever.


Be careful when pulling the petals from that flower of, he loves me, he loves me, not.

I think that you have not thought out your theology well enough to be able to clearly see what the logical conclusion of it really is.

The underlined may appear to be stupid or ignorant; but it is the logical conclusion of your theology if you will take the time to really think about it.

"Age-abiding life" "Age-abiding torments"

When age-abiding life ends, what is the experience of that person?

Does he continue to have consciousness?

[Charlie24]

LOL, some don't have enough sense to run, they're like a Timex, they take a licking and keep on ticking, keep coming back for more! LOL

[Jerwade]

Originally Posted by Jerwade

I thought Charlie said he was bringing someone to the forum that everyone would run from? You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, neither do you understand the age(s). The underlined is the stupidest, and most ignorant thing that I have heard a person say, but then again, you have no comprehension, whatsoever.


Be careful when pulling the petals from that flower of, he loves me, he loves me, not.

Originally Posted by justbyfaith

I think that you have not thought out your theology well enough to be able to clearly see what the logical conclusion of it really is.

The underlined may appear to be stupid or ignorant; but it is the logical conclusion of your theology if you will take the time to really think about it.

"Age-abiding life" "Age-abiding torments"

When age-abiding life ends, what is the experience of that person?

Does he continue to have consciousness?

Originally Posted by Charlie24

LOL, some don't have enough sense to run, they're like a Timex, they take a licking and keep on ticking, keep coming back for more! LOL

And those like the two of you, have very little to no understanding.
Especially, if you believe that what you said was a logical conclusion?

[justbyfaith]

Originally Posted by Jerwade

And those like the two of you, have very little to no understanding.
Especially, if you believe that what you said was a logical conclusion?

Think it out, if you dare.