Was Jesus God? (Holy Spirit, Bible, creation, trinity)

[Billy Evmur]

Originally Posted by PoorOldSpike

I mean, he made it clear many times that he wasn't God..

Jesus said -"Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone" (Luke 18:19)

"Only God knows when Judgment Day will be, I don't know myself" (Mark 13:32)

"I say nothing of my own accord, i only say what my father tells me to say.." (John 12:49)

"I am going to my Father and your Father, my God and your God" (John 20:17)

Paul said "There is one mediator between God and men,- the man Jesus Christ" (1 Tim 2:5)

And God himself said - "This is my beloved son, listen to him" (Matt 17:5)

Jesus regularly prayed to God, yet if he was God why would he pray to himself?

He spelt out who he was to the High Priest-

https://youtu.be/VyecMVERpeM

What is your son? a rabbit?

You are a man so your son will be a man
God's Son will be/is God.

[Michael Way]

Originally Posted by Richard1965

Well, he DID throw out some thought provoking verses there, Mike...

Verses which have all been addressed over and over on threads pertaining to this subject. Jesus never said that he wasn't God.

[G.Duval]

Originally Posted by PoorOldSpike

I mean, he made it clear many times that he wasn't God..

Jesus said -"Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone" (Luke 18:19)

"Only God knows when Judgment Day will be, I don't know myself" (Mark 13:32)

"I say nothing of my own accord, i only say what my father tells me to say.." (John 12:49)

"I am going to my Father and your Father, my God and your God" (John 20:17)

Paul said "There is one mediator between God and men,- the man Jesus Christ" (1 Tim 2:5)

And God himself said - "This is my beloved son, listen to him" (Matt 17:5)

Jesus regularly prayed to God, yet if he was God why would he pray to himself?

He spelt out who he was to the High Priest-

https://youtu.be/VyecMVERpeM

Jesus is God and he is not God, Jesus is archetype of how Man becomes Godlike through Agape. Jesus glorified Christ, Christ glorified the Father, disciples glorified Jesus.

[pneuma]

Originally Posted by Jerwade

I do not believe in the catholic hypostatic union or what is known as the Trinity.
Apparently, you missed the green smiley with the big grin in the form of sarcasm.

i did miss that jer. Thanks for the clarification

[BaptistFundie]

Originally Posted by PoorOldSpike

I mean, he made it clear many times that he wasn't God..

Jesus said -"Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone" (Luke 18:19)

"Only God knows when Judgment Day will be, I don't know myself" (Mark 13:32)

"I say nothing of my own accord, i only say what my father tells me to say.." (John 12:49)

"I am going to my Father and your Father, my God and your God" (John 20:17)

Paul said "There is one mediator between God and men,- the man Jesus Christ" (1 Tim 2:5)

And God himself said - "This is my beloved son, listen to him" (Matt 17:5)

Jesus regularly prayed to God, yet if he was God why would he pray to himself?

He spelt out who he was to the High Priest-

https://youtu.be/VyecMVERpeM

He IS God. But one must understand that within the Trinity there is a "hierarchy" of sorts. The Father sends the Son.

But Jesus is God, and he claimed to be God. And peopled tried to kill him because he claimed he's God.

[pneuma]

Originally Posted by Billy Evmur

What is your son? a rabbit?

You are a man so your son will be a man
God's Son will be/is God.

Still does not make the son the Father. They are two distinct individuals.

[pneuma]

Originally Posted by Michael Way

Verses which have all been addressed over and over on threads pertaining to this subject. Jesus never said that he wasn't God.

Different subject mike unless you think two is the same as three. Oh wait a minute you think 1 is the same as three so you propably think two is the same as three

[pneuma]

Originally Posted by G.Duval

Jesus is God and he is not God, Jesus is archetype of how Man becomes Godlike through Agape. Jesus glorified Christ, Christ glorified the Father, disciples glorified Jesus.

Jesus is part of the elohim the same way we are

[BaptistFundie]

Originally Posted by pneuma

Different subject mike unless you think two is the same as three. Oh wait a minute you think 1 is the same as three so you propably think two is the same as three

Do you have an issue with truth? Or do you just not understand the doctrine? The doctrine of the Trinity is not 3 = 1.

[Ken_N]

Originally Posted by BaptistFundie

Do you have an issue with truth? Or do you just not understand the doctrine? The doctrine of the Trinity is not 3 = 1.

and the concept of The Trinity is independent from the concept of The Incarnation.