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Old 03-14-2023, 07:35 AM
 
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I'm definitely not ok with the Book of Mormon. But I'm still on board. The Chosen is having an impact.
The thing is, when it shows Jesus saying "I am the Law", that goes completely opposite of what Scripture says. Scripture says Jesus is our rest. We rest in him. It's through faith in him that we enter the "rest", or "peace" of God. The opposite is true of the Law. Scripture tells us no one is saved through the Law -- because it only condemns. It points out sin, making us aware of our shortcomings.

Now, we can say, "So what?, it's only this one thing...." But is it? How many other things are just a bit off? How many other things are just not quite true? They add up. And the fact is, many Christians do not actually read their Bibles, but watching this show is all the Bible they're likely to get in a given week.
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Old 03-14-2023, 08:16 AM
 
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The thing is, when it shows Jesus saying "I am the Law", that goes completely opposite of what Scripture says. Scripture says Jesus is our rest. We rest in him. It's through faith in him that we enter the "rest", or "peace" of God. The opposite is true of the Law. Scripture tells us no one is saved through the Law -- because it only condemns. It points out sin, making us aware of our shortcomings.
Where do you think the Law of Moses came from? Moses? If you say it came from God, then it came from Jesus because Jesus is the Word and has been God since the beginning. The Father and the Son are one, remember? You're getting all huffy over nothing.
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Old 03-14-2023, 08:22 AM
 
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Where do you think the Law of Moses came from? Moses?
That line does seem to upset people.

The Law of Moses came from God. If Jesus is God then he is the Law of Moses.
That is how I interpreted it. He is affirming that he is God without saying he is God.
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Old 03-14-2023, 08:25 AM
 
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That line does seem to upset people.

The Law of Moses came from God. If Jesus is God then he is the Law of Moses.
That is how I interpreted it. He is affirming that he is God without saying he is God.
Exactly. (I was in the middle of changing my post to reflect what you just said when I noticed you beat me to the punch.)
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Old 03-14-2023, 08:33 AM
 
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I think the actor portraying Jesus is the best I've ever seen, and I've probably seen just about every "Jesus movie" there is.
Jonathan Roumie gave a fun interview/conversation here:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyT3tiPxlPE
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Old 03-14-2023, 09:04 AM
 
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Where do you think the Law of Moses came from? Moses? If you say it came from God, then it came from Jesus because Jesus is the Word and has been God since the beginning. The Father and the Son are one, remember? You're getting all huffy over nothing.
Saying it came FROM him is not the same as saying he IS the Law. And no, I'm not "getting all huffy", but I'm calmly explaining my position. It's just not doctrinally correct to say the Messiah, God himself, in whom we find peace and rest from our work "is the Law".

I get it. You like it, and find it entertaining, as do a lot of people. I'm sure it is an entertaining and inspiring show, along with being doctrinally incorrect.
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Old 03-14-2023, 09:48 AM
 
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My concern is that they contradict it. I have no problem with them portraying Jesus using dialogue that doesn't appear in Scripture, as long as it doesn't go against what is written.
Good morning. I'm late to respond to your comment from yesterday (slept in this morning too ). I understand what you're saying here and as I said, Dallas and the writers take creative liberties with the script. He's also stated that several times over the past few years when something in an episode upsets others. Here is his explanation of why that line in written the way it was in the episode.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjvHjjUJJow

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Where do you think the Law of Moses came from? Moses? If you say it came from God, then it came from Jesus because Jesus is the Word and has been God since the beginning. The Father and the Son are one, remember?
Yes. I believe that is exactly what Dallas meant when they wrote the line in that episode.

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That line does seem to upset people.

The Law of Moses came from God. If Jesus is God then he is the Law of Moses.
That is how I interpreted it. He is affirming that he is God without saying he is God.
I interpreted it the same as you, TMSRetired. I took no offense to it because I know there are plenty of moments in the show that cause me to raise an eyebrow but I know that, at its core, the show isn't about spelling out the entire gospel for people. It's meant to pique their curiosity. To ask questions. To want to know more about God. That's all. As siameseifyoupls stated earlier in a post, The Chosen is having an impact.
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Old 03-14-2023, 10:30 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Good morning. I'm late to respond to your comment from yesterday (slept in this morning too ). I understand what you're saying here and as I said, Dallas and the writers take creative liberties with the script. He's also stated that several times over the past few years when something in an episode upsets others. Here is his explanation of why that line in written the way it was in the episode.


Yes. I believe that is exactly what Dallas meant when they wrote the line in that episode.

I interpreted it the same as you, TMSRetired. I took no offense to it because I know there are plenty of moments in the show that cause me to raise an eyebrow but I know that, at its core, the show isn't about spelling out the entire gospel for people. It's meant to pique their curiosity. To ask questions. To want to know more about God. That's all. As siameseifyoupls stated earlier in a post, The Chosen is having an impact.
That is also how the Bible is written IMHO.
It encourages you to think deeper.
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Old 03-14-2023, 10:49 AM
 
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That is also how the Bible is written IMHO.
It encourages you to think deeper.
Yes And Dallas has stated as much over the past few years.
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Old 03-14-2023, 11:43 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Saying it came FROM him is not the same as saying he IS the Law. And no, I'm not "getting all huffy", but I'm calmly explaining my position. It's just not doctrinally correct to say the Messiah, God himself, in whom we find peace and rest from our work "is the Law".

I get it. You like it, and find it entertaining, as do a lot of people. I'm sure it is an entertaining and inspiring show, along with being doctrinally incorrect.
Maybe because you are taking it literally and not figuratively.
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