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Old 03-14-2023, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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Saying it came FROM him is not the same as saying he IS the Law. And no, I'm not "getting all huffy", but I'm calmly explaining my position. It's just not doctrinally correct to say the Messiah, God himself, in whom we find peace and rest from our work "is the Law".
Jesus said "I am the resurrection and the life," too. Technically speaking, He "is" neither of those things. Both of them came about as a result of His Atonement. Surely you are familiar with metaphors.
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Old 03-14-2023, 11:51 AM
 
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Good morning. I'm late to respond to your comment from yesterday (slept in this morning too ). I understand what you're saying here and as I said, Dallas and the writers take creative liberties with the script. He's also stated that several times over the past few years when something in an episode upsets others. Here is his explanation of why that line in written the way it was in the episode.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjvHjjUJJow

Yes. I believe that is exactly what Dallas meant when they wrote the line in that episode.

I interpreted it the same as you, TMSRetired. I took no offense to it because I know there are plenty of moments in the show that cause me to raise an eyebrow but I know that, at its core, the show isn't about spelling out the entire gospel for people. It's meant to pique their curiosity. To ask questions. To want to know more about God. That's all. As siameseifyoupls stated earlier in a post, The Chosen is having an impact.
Is that an interview with Dallas Jenkins? Man, that is a lo-o-o-o-ng interview. I'd like to listen to it when I have a couple of free hours, though. I'm really interested in hearing what he has to say.
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Old 03-14-2023, 11:55 AM
 
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Is that an interview with Dallas Jenkins? Man, that is a lo-o-o-o-ng interview. I'd like to listen to it when I have a couple of free hours, though. I'm really interested in hearing what he has to say.
Not a long one. Little over two minutes. A quick response to the "I am the Law of Moses" comment.
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Old 03-14-2023, 12:50 PM
 
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Not a long one. Little over two minutes. A quick response to the "I am the Law of Moses" comment.
Duh. I read 2:23 and thought 2 hours and 23 minutes.
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Old 03-14-2023, 01:36 PM
 
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While, of course, we don't want incorrect theology, I thought I would share the impact The Chosen has had on two people I personally know - the woman who does my hair and her husband.

I have known her for years, and we have had discussions about Christianity - she was raised Catholic, but it was clear to me that she was not that interested beyond the tradition. A few months ago she mentioned that she was watching The Chosen, and that opened up a whole world of discussion to us.

She and her husband love the show. He was not raised in church at all. In fact, he heard people reciting The Lord's Prayer together, and he asked her what that was. He didn't even know what The Lord's Prayer was!
He is now reading the Bible. She is in a Bible study and is hungry, hungry, hungry. The light has gone on for them.

So while we are concerned about correct theology - and, of course, it should be correct, I doubt that either of them remembers Jesus saying He is the law. Or if they do remember, they thought nothing of it - it won't matter to them. What does matter is that they are pursuing God big time. And they seem to be doing it in the right places. Holy Spirit has done His work, and they are hooked.

That's why I say I am still on board. I know these people personally, and their lives have been changed.
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Old 03-14-2023, 02:01 PM
 
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While, of course, we don't want incorrect theology, I thought I would share the impact The Chosen has had on two people I personally know - the woman who does my hair and her husband.

I have known her for years, and we have had discussions about Christianity - she was raised Catholic, but it was clear to me that she was not that interested beyond the tradition. A few months ago she mentioned that she was watching The Chosen, and that opened up a whole world of discussion to us.

She and her husband love the show. He was not raised in church at all. In fact, he heard people reciting The Lord's Prayer together, and he asked her what that was. He didn't even know what The Lord's Prayer was!
He is now reading the Bible. She is in a Bible study and is hungry, hungry, hungry. The light has gone on for them.

So while we are concerned about correct theology - and, of course, it should be correct, I doubt that either of them remembers Jesus saying He is the law. Or if they do remember, they thought nothing of it - it won't matter to them. What does matter is that they are pursuing God big time. And they seem to be doing it in the right places. Holy Spirit has done His work, and they are hooked.

That's why I say I am still on board. I know these people personally, and their lives have been changed.
That is great!
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Old 03-14-2023, 03:02 PM
 
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Maybe because you are taking it literally and not figuratively.
But would it be so terrible to actually have a tv show about Jesus that gets it right?
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Old 03-14-2023, 03:54 PM
 
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But would it be so terrible to actually have a tv show about Jesus that gets it right?
I think it's fine. And I guess millions of others do too because they have 3 seasons under their belt and are filming the fourth all by donations.
In fact they went out of their way to call John the Baptist John the Baptizer so people would not get confused with the Baptist denomination.

Maybe you should think about why that show bothers you so much.
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Old 03-14-2023, 04:27 PM
 
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I think it's fine. And I guess millions of others do too because they have 3 seasons under their belt and are filming the fourth all by donations.
In fact they went out of their way to call John the Baptist John the Baptizer so people would not get confused with the Baptist denomination.
I didn't know that. Pretty interesting. I grew up saying John the Baptist but never really connected that title to the denomination.

I've enjoyed the first three seasons very much. I look forward to the other four but, then again, not really because I know how the story ends.

Can you believe the amount of money they've raised through crowd funding? They were able to build the entire filming set in Texas. Even through the pandemic. The cinematography is outstanding. Rivals anything coming out of Hollywood. It's a great show.
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Old 03-14-2023, 06:11 PM
 
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But would it be so terrible to actually have a tv show about Jesus that gets it right?
If you based such a show strictly on what the gospels have to say, it probably would not hold people's interest since you can read the exact same words in a book. The Chosen brings the New Testament to life in a captivating way. For instance, you mentioned the fact that Matthew is depicted as being on the autism spectrum when the Bible gives us no indication that he was. The Chosen makes his disability real and shows how the other apostles acted towards him and how Jesus did. It contains a powerful lesson even though it's not exactly "by the book." I think the bottom line is that if you are looking to find fault with something (this movie or anything, really), you will be given ample opportunity to be successful. If you are looking to be uplifted by it, you will be. And I don't believe Jesus is the slightest bit upset by the artistic license that has been taken with His life.
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