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Easy peasy - Paul first wrote (in scripture) 'the Church of the ever-living God is the pillar and foundation of the truth'.
So if both are true, we simply ask the Church, the pillar and foundation of truth.
You do realize the church is ALL Christians, not just the Pope and magisterium? True Christians are the pillar and foundation. They uphold the Scriptures as truth.
Inspiration does exist. I have written things I think were inspired. But there's inspiration and there's inspiration. The fundamentalist version of it meaning "God-breathed" is not what the word actually means.
The authors of the collection of writings known as The Bible were certainly inspired by their beliefs and their search to know God. That is different from the words being breathed into life by God.
The Greek word used here is θεόπνευστος (theopneustos) which is the combination of theos, meaning God, and pneustos, meaning to blow or breathe. So in the original Greek the term literally means “God-breathed.”
Honestly? If one doesn't believe that Scripture is the infallible word of God, then nothing they say about God matters because it's only their opinion.
Exactly! Honestly, I have to laugh at comments on this forum. They’ll defend their man made doctrine with Scripture then tell you they don’t believe all Scripture is inspired. Go figure!
I looked up the passage and notice that there are 2 words used that are translated as scripture
2Ti 3:15**And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
2Ti 3:16**All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17**That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
The first is G1121***(Strong)
γράμμα
gramma
gram'-mah
From G1125; a writing, that is, a letter, note, epistle, book, etc.; plural learning: - bill, learning, letter, scripture, writing, written.
The second G1124***(Strong)
γραφή
graphē
graf-ay'
From G1125; a document, that is, holy Writ (or its contents or a statement in it): - scripture.
I looked at how the second one ‘graphe’ was used, and it is used to pick out the prophets and is about the fulfilling of Scripture
This is why we are told that there is spirit and life within and we need to separate the ‘wheat’ from the ‘chaff’
It has to do with correctly dividing the word, and understanding the meaning
2Ti 2:14**Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.
2Ti 2:15**Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
2Ti 2:16**But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
The same separation is used between gramma/letter and graphe in this Corinthians passage
Ministers of the New Covenant
2Co 3:1**Do we begin again to commend ourselves? or need we, as some others, epistles of commendation to you, or letters of commendation from you?
2Co 3:2**Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:
2Co 3:3**Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
2Co 3:4**And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward:
2Co 3:5**Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
2Co 3:6**Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
The Greek word used here is θεόπνευστος (theopneustos) which is the combination of theos, meaning God, and pneustos, meaning to blow or breathe. So in the original Greek the term literally means “God-breathed.”
Great posts,
and ties into my 'scriptural' responses to an OP who only wants to hear 'scriptural responses'.
Lemme further my response (scripturally)...
"The aim of this instruction is love from a pure heart, a good conscience, and a sincere faith.
Some people have deviated from these and turned to meaningless talk,
wanting to be teachers of the law, but without understanding either what they are saying or what they assert with such assurance. We know that the law is good, provided that one uses it as law, with the understanding that law is meant not for a righteous person but for the lawless and unruly..."
(1 Tim 1:5-9)
It is Scripture and only Scripture that directs my path.
You do realize the church is ALL Christians, not just the Pope and magisterium? True Christians are the pillar and foundation. They uphold the Scriptures as truth.
For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office:
So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another. (Romans 12:4-5) And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists;
and some, pastors and teachers; For the perfecting of the saints,
for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ Eph4:11-12
Scripture mentions Bishops, Deacons, Presbyters/Elders too; even mentions a council too regarding Gentiles and other things.
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