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View Poll Results: How will you react?
Rage, rejection, and disown right away. 3 7.89%
Lecture ,counsel, and punish the child until he or she is straight. 2 5.26%
Remain neutral and pray for the best, but refuse to engage in the GLBT community. 13 34.21%
Support and understand the child's decision and remain accepting of the GLBT people. 20 52.63%
Voters: 38. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-09-2009, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Downtown Omaha
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I have also expressed my own struggles with same sex attraction and have resisted such temptation my entire life. It has gotten easier as I get older, but something that trully helped me was my family relationships. I was very close to my father and my wife helped me alot.
I figured you must be gay from the way you're so vehementely against gay issues.

 
Old 03-09-2009, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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So sinse you have condemned yourself to hell, you are willing to condemn your children as well. You are very hateful if this is your stance and you have the nerve to judge your parents.
I haven't "condemned myself to hell". I don't know why you bring my children into it, other than you're being judgemental and hateful toward me once again. I find it pitiful that you believe what you believe.

My parents are consumed by the ignorance of Christian fundamentalism. I don't judge them - they're simple people. I just don't need their ignorance in my life, and I'm not willing to sacrifice my life and pretend to be something I'm not just to please their ignorance. Christian fundamentalism is a tragedy in the country that needs to be addressed. I suppose better education would be a good start.
 
Old 03-09-2009, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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denverian, I hope that you realize there are a lot of us heterosexual Christians who not only will NOT condemn you and your lifestyle (choice really isn't applicable, is it?) but will pray that you find the partner of your dreams and live a full and happy life. Why God allows diversity of this type is beyond my understanding, but I accept the fact that a persons sexuality is not under his control. And in recognizing my own limitations I understand that you should have all the rights I do and should be allowed to pursue your happiness to the fullest. I wish you the very best life has to offer.
I have a partner of 13 years, two children, and we're members of an accepting Presbyterian church. Life is good! Thanks!
 
Old 03-09-2009, 12:50 PM
 
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I seriously think you need to post elsewhere. Satan is the adversary of God and not the author of the OT.
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Once more the devil(Greek for "slanderer") took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world, along with their splendor.He said to Jesus, "I will give you all these things if you will bow down and worship me!"
Matthew, 4:8-9

Satan rules the world, for how could he offer Christ what he did not own? Satan, the creator, rules the world that he created. "Satan" means opposer in Latin and "devil" means slanderer in Greek. These things are all what the god of the OT are to Christ our liberator. It was written,

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Listen to my words, my son Seth. When god had created me out of the earth, along with Eve, your mother, I went about with her in a glory which she had seen in the aeon from which we had come forth. She taught me a word of knowledge of the eternal GOD. And we resembled the great eternal angels, for we were higher than the god who had created us and the powers with him, whom we did not know.
-The Apocalypse of Adam



The "god" who created Adam was Satan, the devil of the NT and the tyrannt god of the OT, also called Yaldabaoth. The GOD of Christ, the Heavenly Father (he is never called that in the OT) is that which is above this world and did not create us or this cruel world. It is that unnameable, unfathomable it that we should worship, not the petty, evil tyrannt creator of the OT, and it is that unanameable Great Light from which Christ came, not the evil child-god of Moses.


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You clearly have no understanding of the scriptures or how the OT and NT work together.

Ohh really? The book of Leviticus teaches that it is a sin to handle a dead possum or camel, even if it is removing road kill of the street...so, does a Christian who takes a dead cat of the road make god angry? No, not the GOD of Christ, no more than a gay person makes GOD angry by loving another man or woman.
 
Old 03-09-2009, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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I haven't "condemned myself to hell". I don't know why you bring my children into it, other than you're being judgemental and hateful toward me once again. I find it pitiful that you believe what you believe.

My parents are consumed by the ignorance of Christian fundamentalism. I don't judge them - they're simple people. I just don't need their ignorance in my life, and I'm not willing to sacrifice my life and pretend to be something I'm not just to please their ignorance. Christian fundamentalism is a tragedy in the country that needs to be addressed. I suppose better education would be a good start.
Yeh, indoctrinate the children through Publik skool!

Make the children wrong when they disagree with homo sex.

If you can't fix the broken, break em' all!!!

godspeed,

freedom
 
Old 03-09-2009, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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I figured you must be gay from the way you're so vehementely against gay issues.
Yeh, that makes sense....

godspeed,

freedom
 
Old 03-09-2009, 02:49 PM
 
Location: God's Country
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Matthew, 4:8-9

Satan rules the world, for how could he offer Christ what he did not own? Satan, the creator, rules the world that he created. "Satan" means opposer in Latin and "devil" means slanderer in Greek. These things are all what the god of the OT are to Christ our liberator. It was written,


The "god" who created Adam was Satan, the devil of the NT and the tyrannt god of the OT, also called Yaldabaoth. The GOD of Christ, the Heavenly Father (he is never called that in the OT) is that which is above this world and did not create us or this cruel world. It is that unnameable, unfathomable it that we should worship, not the petty, evil tyrannt creator of the OT, and it is that unanameable Great Light from which Christ came, not the evil child-god of Moses. [/color]

Ohh really? The book of Leviticus teaches that it is a sin to handle a dead possum or camel, even if it is removing road kill of the street...so, does a Christian who takes a dead cat of the road make god angry? No, not the GOD of Christ, no more than a gay person makes GOD angry by loving another man or woman.
I agree with Robin, you have no understanding of Scripture.
 
Old 03-09-2009, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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Yeh, that makes sense....

godspeed,

freedom
Just like Ted Haggard?
 
Old 03-09-2009, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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Just like Ted Haggard?
How about God? He wrote the rules! He's the most anti homo sex there is, he said they were an abomination, that they should be put to death, in fact he allowed an entire civilization to be wiped out because of it.

Who are we to change the rules on God?

godspeed,

freedom
 
Old 03-09-2009, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Gaston, North Carolina
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I figured you must be gay from the way you're so vehementely against gay issues.
You are so far off on that. I struggled with same sex attraction for a little while, but I made my choice and never gave into the desires. That has been 25 years since I made my decision and the struggle is so miniscule now it practically does not exist. So no I am not and have never been gay because I have never given into the urges. The reason I am so against homosexuality is because I know from personal experience it is a choice and can be over come. Also for spiritual reasons I realize it is against Gods will and I wish for no one to suffer for eternity because of a fleshly decision. I care about the gays and do not wish evil upon them and I love them enough to tell them they are wrong.
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