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It makes sense for these companies to remain where they are because there is a talent pool in the Bay area and it attracts technology specialists from around the world with good paying jobs. As another poster pointed out as well I think Grapico - there are supporting companies/firms outside the Bay area that help with the innovation coming out of it - Sorry the Bay Area doesn't own technology innovation (it may be the largest epicentre) but in an ever shrinking globalized world it is a part (yes a bigger part than other individualized parts) but just a cog in the wheel of an increasingly globalized economy. I hate to burst your tech bubble.
Back to these wonderful companies lol.. if any of these large companies wanted to, they could move their operation(s) elsewhere and still attract the talent needed to run the company... that can be said of any industry sector.. and you should know, particularly in the information technology sector! I'm sure there are plenty of Techies in India supporting Bay Area tech giants.
Look at Ontario, it manufactures more cars than Michigan - Probably because it made financial sense to the automakers. Having said that they could pack up shop and move elsewhere if it suits their fancy... Plenty of Americans and individuals around the world drive Ontario made cars and have no clue! That is my point, most people don't really connect tech companies to the Bay area and in particular outside the U.S. Just because Ontario builds more American Cars than Michigan doesn't mean everyone driving a GM, Ford or Chrysler thinks wow most likely i'm driving a car built in Canada.
Look at the Boeing 787 - can Chicago or Seattle lay claim to building every requisite component of that aircraft? Not on your life it is a mish mash of millions of components from companies around the world who could do it as well, in some cases better and probably cheaper than companies just inside the Seattle or Chicago areas. Ironically, the Batteries that caught fire in the ANA aircraft were actually made in - you guessed it Japan!
Another point that you are not getting that I am trying to make is relying on industry to define a region and shoving that down people's throat to make a point that your area is the centre of the economic universe isn't my style, or probably most save for some bloated CD forummers. Really, most people roll their eyes and I'm sorry, Globally NYC is the defining and iconic city of the U.S. can you with a straight face deny this?
Hey I'm glad you like Apple products but lord - they aren't transporting you to other worlds are they...maybe i'm not that easily impressed.
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The point you seem to miss in earlier saying that the tech companies could move their business anywhere is in the Bay Area's ability to reliably attract the best and brightest minds in the world to a central location to foster an environment that creates things that are simply impossible to create elsewhere. Yes, parts of the business can be sent to other places, but not the truly innovative design parts. Other places can knock off the technology and make it cheaply. But who is inventing it? Who is designing the next thing? The Bay Area.
As for your laughing that your phone says it was designed in California and not the Bay Area, I would suggest that you are too easily amused. Ask yourself instead, why Apple would make a point of stating its design origins in California? It's because Apple knows it makes the most innovative, magical products in the world and is inextricably linked to the Bay Area--just like the hundreds of admired tech companies that have come before it and since. They are leaving a mark that says "this is genuine".
Is anyone other than you confused as to where the tech capital of the world is located and why, try as some may to take business aspects and manufacturing portions of those businesses elsewhere, the thought leadership and visionary creativity remains here?
What do you think of Cisco's logo of the Golden Gate Bridge? I suppose that could be anywhere. Especially with a name like Cisco.
The point you seem to miss in earlier saying that the tech companies could move their business anywhere is in the Bay Area's ability to reliably attract the best and brightest minds in the world to a central location to foster an environment that creates things that are simply impossible to create elsewhere. Yes, parts of the business can be sent to other places, but not the truly innovative design parts. Other places can knock off the technology and make it cheaply. But who is inventing it? Who is designing the next thing? The Bay Area.
As for your laughing that your phone says it was designed in California and not the Bay Area, I would suggest that you are too easily amused. Ask yourself instead, why Apple would make a point of stating its design origins in California? It's because Apple knows it makes the most innovative, magical products in the world and is inextricably linked to the Bay Area--just like the hundreds of admired tech companies that have come before it and since. They are leaving a mark that says "this is genuine".
Let me start off by saying Apple (many people on here probably already know this) is my favorite company. I'm one of 'those' people who's an Apple fanboy. So my response isn't negative at all. . . .
"other places can knock off the technology and make it cheaply" WRONG. Apple signed a deal with Foxconn so no one is knocking off Apple in this sense. At the bottom of my Magic Mouse and iPhones it says "Assembled in China" LOL. Apple is about to start manufacturing the Mac Pro in America again so that's cool! I'm sure that probably won't be done in the Bay either though.
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It's because Apple knows it makes the most innovative, magical products in the world and is inextricably linked to the Bay Area
NOPE, not the case. Like 3-4 Years ago all of my products used to say "Designed/Made by Apple in Cupertino" WHICH is in the Bay. The change was strategic because California holds more clout than "Cupertino" or "The Bay" (<-- Apple would never use/say "The Bay" in any advertising, I wonder why? )
Bottom line is while The Bay is the Tech capital of the world currently, it's offerings are not exclusive to that region. When people see/use Facebook people who aren't computer savvy or know the history wouldn't know about "The Bay"/doesn't make that connection. People who aren't up to date with locations and tech doesn't know where Cupertino is. . . .
Side note: Why didn't Samsung ask Google to rent them out some space for this weeks unveiling of the Galaxy 4 in the Bay? It has the clout, right??? Ah well, we'll see Samsung's latest tech offerings in New York City on the 14th. Whatever though, I'm waiting on my iPhone 6 (hopefully Apple skip the 5s, lol)
I can't believe people are discussing how an Apple product makes people think about Bay Area?
How about this Bay Area boosters....... How about Wall Street collapses, stock market collapses (both in NY) and we will see how many people even have the money to purchase their products.
I can't believe people are discussing how an Apple product makes people think about Bay Area?
How about this Bay Area boosters....... How about Wall Street collapses, stock market collapses (both in NY) and we will see how many people even have the money to purchase their products.
It was during the recession that iphone and android platforms essentially conquered the wireless industry, sherlock.
Diva, apple got big around 04. In 04 there was not a recession.
Valentro, posted some amazing pics of NY. Care to share some some pics of Oakland? I understand it will take awhile because I would like some high quality ones. This means pictures without crimes in progress or gangbangers everywhere or people standing in the welfare line. I await your pictures my friend.
Mr Valentro, you are spending a lot of time making my hometown metro look amazing. I appreciate it. These pictures are amazing. Montclair do you have any Oakland pictures?
Your comment seems to suggest that "urban canyon" is the ideal to which San Francisco aspires. You don't seem to understand San Francisco. Likewise, NYC is nothing like this
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Globally NYC is the defining and iconic city of the U.S. can you with a straight face deny this?
I never suggested otherwise. I said I prefer San Francisco.
It doesn't matter one bit to me to live in "the most defining and iconic city in the U.S." The lifestyle in San Francisco is life affirming. I just spent the whole weekend in Wine Country in 72 degrees and clear blue skies. I drove across the Golden Gate Bridge and through the Marin Headlands to get there. The scent of eucalyptus was in the air the whole way. And I'm home for Sunday dinner with the sun setting over the Presidio out my window.
I'll take San Francisco.
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