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Old 04-24-2014, 03:50 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Originally Posted by MDAllstar View Post
What does this look like?



Because it looks exactly like this to me.....
Actually, while that Prada store bores me (I've certainly seen better, including here in SF), it's still far different than that cheap glass facade thrown up for City Center.

My former company bought a shopping center (outdoor lifestyle center type of thing) with uniform facades and had lots of trouble with it. Street retail cannot just be invented out of thin air like has been done at City Center...I say good luck to it.
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Old 04-24-2014, 03:57 PM
 
Location: The City
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MD just out curiousity - which would appear to be better overall environment for shopping on aesthetics

City Center

This
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Un...41d9b5994cb6ba

or this
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9498...ZpZnkT07Zw!2e0

or this
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Co...1b9dc5c8e3b848

Just curious on your thoughts honestly
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Old 04-24-2014, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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it just looks sterile to me - street wall and all

And that cladding - yuk

why does everything they seem to be building in these areas all look this way - DC deserves better design IMHO

You know, I actually like new and modern. I hate old and dirty. You can have the **** in the hallway. I want clean new buildings inside and out. I don't want any dirt on the streets or on the walls. I like the urban built environment of San Fran, but I think San Fran buildings are old and dirty actually. I like Midtown Manhattan. Give me clean and shiny anyday.
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Old 04-24-2014, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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MD just out curiousity - which would appear to be better overall environment for shopping on aesthetics

City Center

This
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Un...41d9b5994cb6ba

or this
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9498...ZpZnkT07Zw!2e0

or this
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Co...1b9dc5c8e3b848

Just curious on your thoughts honestly

Well, I like the third the most because it's clean, however, I like the second of Philly because it's more urban than the one in Boston. I just don't like San Fran because everything is old. Those fire escapes just need to go. I love it because it's urban, but it really needs a power wash or something. Not enough glass with marble buildings also.
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Old 04-24-2014, 04:14 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Here I present snapshots of street retail in Atlanta. I'm not kidding when I say this stuff looks *exactly* like the pictures above of City Center. So I think it's safe to say that stores aside, City Center and mass Atlanta developments are kind of the same (and actually Buckhead Atlanta will have the same store lineup as City Center when it opens this year):

http://goo.gl/maps/HSB35

http://goo.gl/maps/Q8Ezu
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Old 04-24-2014, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Here I present snapshots of street retail in Atlanta. I'm not kidding when I say this stuff looks *exactly* like the pictures above of City Center. So I think it's safe to say that stores aside, City Center and mass Atlanta developments are kind of the same (and actually Buckhead Atlanta will have the same store lineup as City Center when it opens this year):

http://goo.gl/maps/HSB35

http://goo.gl/maps/Q8Ezu

LOL.....

You are comparing WASHINGTON D.C. to Atlanta? I can walk two blocks from that street and be back in open space...lol.....who is this guy?

At the end of the day....you like old I like new. You like dirt, I don't. You use words like character to describe those buildings, I use words like ghetto.
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Old 04-24-2014, 04:24 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Well, I like the third the most because it's clean, however, I like the second of Philly because it's more urban than the one in Boston. I just don't like San Fran because everything is old. Those fire escapes just need to go. I love it because it's urban, but it really needs a power wash or something. Not enough glass with marble buildings also.
Lol, it's our collective diverse opinions that make the world go round. I cannot get enough of those fire escapes and I love NYC, Philly, and SF grit. Boston is truly a super clean city, though.

Here is a nice view of granite and glass mixed together for you (mix of modern - Four Seasons tower, and old - old banks coverted to high end retail):

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7875...-osA!2e0?hl=en

I couldn't get a good street view of the Prada store here (fantastic when lit up at night), which is across from a pretty cool retrofitted building housing a deBeers store, but below is Armani:

https://maps.google.com/maps?t=m&ll=...classic&dg=opt

City Center won't ever be able to replicate this stuff. Nothing sets it apart from what could be built in the burbs.
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Old 04-24-2014, 04:25 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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LOL.....

You are comparing WASHINGTON D.C. to Atlanta? I can walk two blocks from that street and be back in open space...lol.....who is this guy?

At the end of the day....you like old I like new. You like dirt, I don't. You use words like character to describe those buildings, I use words like ghetto.
Architecturally what you presented is not much different from what I presented. The fact that it pissed you off that I made that comparison means I made my point. I'm not talking about what you can walk to in 2 blocks, I'm talking about the building comparisons I gave.
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Old 04-24-2014, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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LOL.....

You are comparing WASHINGTON D.C. to Atlanta? I can walk two blocks from that street and be back in open space...lol.....who is this guy?

At the end of the day....you like old I like new. You like dirt, I don't. You use words like character to describe those buildings, I use words like ghetto.
DC people are acting brand new but cranes aside, the place still feels Southern which I like.

So genteel.
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Old 04-24-2014, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Architecturally what you presented is not much different from what I presented. The fact that it pissed you off that I made that comparison means I made my point. I'm not talking about what you can walk to in 2 blocks, I'm talking about the building comparisons I gave.
Actually, you can ask Kidphilly, I have been saying this for years about old buildings. I know you're new here. He will vouch for me.
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