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Old 01-17-2014, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Miami's GDP is right near Atlanta, and Miami has just as much foreign recognition. How is it a tier below Atlanta? I can see it being below Houston or Dallas for economic reasons. Should Miami be downgraded to a high-sufficiency city?
Industry.Miami does not produce a lot. Comparatively speaking.
Its not a research center.
Its not a high tech hub.
And although Miami is the de facto capitol of Latin America it does not dominate any significant industry other than tourism.

The creative class is lacking in Miami.

Miami's main area is Latin America.Atlanta is more global centric.
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Old 01-17-2014, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Miami/ Washington DC
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Miami is blessed by it's geography being a gateway between North & South America, populated by New Yorkers (who founded the city) and being multi-lingual at the same time (3 official languages English, Spanish, Creole).

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Falger was from up-state NY but Julia Tuttle was from Ohio, and for the most part Flager lived in Ohio by age 12 I think. Brickell was also from Ohio. So really we owe Miami to the great people of Ohio!
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Industry.Miami does not produce a lot. Comparatively speaking.
Its not a research center.
Its not a high tech hub.
And although Miami is the de facto capitol of Latin America it does not dominate any significant industry other than tourism.

The creative class is lacking in Miami.

Miami's main area is Latin America.Atlanta is more global centric.
Miami is the number one entry point of international air cargo in the U.S., overall after Seattle and maybe LA and NYC Miami is a top 5 aviation center in the U.S. Miami is the Cruise line and cruise ship capital of the world. It is the biggest yachting center in the U.S. for both the repair and sales of personal water crafts. It does not even dominate its own state in tourism. Is tourism a big economic engine in Miami? Yes of course, but the city has more than just that. I get what your saying though. But on an international recognition level Miami is not in the same class as Atlanta, it is above it.
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Old 01-17-2014, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Miami is a major financial and business center for Latin America. I can sort of see that making it pretty high. Atlanta I don't understand unless it has a lot to do with the airport (for interconnectivity). Houston is obviously the energy capital of the U.S. and Dallas is no slouch. I'd probably put them all at Beta+ with the possible exception of Miami.
Did you know that the company that owns the New York Stock Exchange(Intercontinental Exchange) is headquartered in Atlanta?
Atlanta is also huge in information technology like data collection companies like First Data, and Equifax,

Sure Miami is a large financial center for Latin America but not ONE bank from Latin America is in the top 50 largest banks in the world.Atlanta has Suntrust.

Not to mention it is a larger financial sector than Miami overall

Miami ranks 63 in 25 an d older with a bachelors.For comparison Jacksonville ranks 67 and Atlanta number 8.

Not to mention Atlanta has the 5th or 6th largest concentration of F-500 companies in America and one of the largest concentration of international headquarters also.

Atlanta is also a major higher educational hub with many universities that are heavy into research like Georgia Tech and Emory.Emory also has close ties to the CDC which is headquartered next door

Atlanta also has a higher GDP
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Old 01-17-2014, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Atlanta ,GA
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Falger was from up-state NY but Julia Tuttle was from Ohio, and for the most part Flager lived in Ohio by age 12 I think. Brickell was also from Ohio. So really we owe Miami to the great people of Ohio!


Miami is the number one entry point of international air cargo in the U.S., overall after Seattle and maybe LA and NYC Miami is a top 5 aviation center in the U.S. Miami is the Cruise line and cruise ship capital of the world. It is the biggest yachting center in the U.S. for both the repair and sales of personal water crafts. It does not even dominate its own state in tourism. Is tourism a big economic engine in Miami? Yes of course, but the city has more than just that. I get what your saying though. But on an international recognition level Miami is not in the same class as Atlanta, it is above it.
Yes it does but not for business.Miami is a tourist hub.With the exception of Latin America then its both.

None of those industries are large economic generators or wealth generators.That is why Miami has such a high poverty rate.To many service jobs.

Although Miami is a major cargo hub,but its not in the top 3 in the u.S. and much further down world wide.
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Old 01-17-2014, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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BS post. Did you know that NYC, the biggest, most esteemed city in the nation, has never hosted the Olympics? So just because Atlanta has hosted the Olympics doesn't make it the most cosmopolitan, and international in the American South. That honor goes to Houston, which as the 3rd largest amount of foreign consulates, and has over 90 languages spoken in its metro, and is the energy capital of the world. Even Dallas is more international and cosmopolitan than Atlanta.

Actually, never mind. Texas isn't really in the south, but Atlanta is, so Atlanta is the most cosmopolitan by default.
Btw, folks, this is a certified and notorious troll. Don't feed him/shim/it. It
Does nothing but gain life from rebuttles to the nonsense it posts.
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Old 01-17-2014, 11:42 AM
 
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One thing we can all agree on is that Miami has nowhere to go but up. Miami doesn't have to make a significant jump in its economy for it to become a first class city. Miami has been blessed with its location facing the Americas, its climate, and obviously the drug trade that galvanized its popularity and economy.

Now Miami has many project buildings in place that will urbanize its downtown, and will start erecting more buildings (if they haven't begun already). Miamis potential is higher than people would like to admit... even if its not where it should be economically right now. Miami has too many things working in their favor for it not to ultimately be a true world class city in the future.
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Old 01-17-2014, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Atlanta Metro Area (OTP North)
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Here we go...Atlanta vs Miami
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Old 01-17-2014, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Miami is a city that deserves better. It certainly isn't a san francisco of the south though.
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Old 01-17-2014, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Well the rankings are not based on economics so Miami being ranked higher than Houston or Dallas according criteria does push it above both Texas cities.
What are they known for? Oil and if it didn't exist nobody might not ever know Houston or Dallas.

Miami is blessed by it's geography being a gateway between North & South America, populated by New Yorkers (who founded the city) and being multi-lingual at the same time (3 official languages English, Spanish, Creole).

It's funny because there is no industry in Miami compared to Houston or Dallas and at least Atlanta had railroads. Miami could have been another "beach town" in Florida yet it is now one of the top economies in the US.

People overseas will know Miami first before Atlanta! As for your Question? Mention "Dallas" overseas and the first Question will be "Who shot JR?"!
I think this is a good point. Hong Kong has a smaller GDP than cities like Houston and Dallas yet I doubt anyone would question that when using more than GDP as a barometer for a global city, HK is more global than Dallas/Houston. I think having a large GDP is important to a 'global' city and if you are a global city in the Beta and Alpha class - you already are up there in GDP - but it isn't the only barometer - there are other criteria that need to be taken into account.

Plus Miami's GDP is still the 11th largest in the U.S at 274B MSA - just below Atlanta's 294B MSA.. Neither of which is pigeon droppings in ANY measure of GDP.

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Old 01-17-2014, 03:52 PM
 
Location: The Mid-Cities
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I think this is a good point. Hong Kong has a smaller GDP than cities like Houston and Dallas yet I doubt anyone would question that when using more than GDP as a barometer for a global city, HK is more global than Dallas/Houston. I think having a large GDP is important to a 'global' city and if you are a global city in the Beta and Alpha class - you already are up there in GDP - but it isn't the only barometer - there are other criteria that need to be taken into account.

Plus Miami's GDP is still the 11th largest in the U.S at 274B MSA - just below Atlanta's 294B MSA.. Neither of which is pigeon droppings in ANY measure of GDP.

Your point is valid but GDP should certainly have a bigger impact and validity when comparing two cities in the same country/market (in example Houston/Dallas/Atlanta versus Miami) vs comparing two in completely different markets/countries (in example Hong Kong versus X US city). For example, there is no doubt that Sao Paolo is more global then Rio because they are in the same country/market/currency, etc.
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