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Your obsession with putting down Pittsburgh is really pathetic
Maybe (obviously you're saying he does) he has a history with putting down Pittsburgh, but his post seems like a fair enough response to the other poster to me...
I would say the Ohio cities are underrated plus buffalo and Syracuse. I feel like people have such terrible opinions of these places and there are some really cool spots to check out
Underrated: Cleveland - Offers the amenities of equal quality to most big cities out East including spectacular playhouses, orchestra, museums, excellent dining options, yet very unpretentious, culturally diverse, beautiful opulent early 20th century architecture everywhere, excellent natural features (one of the nation's best metroparks systems, a nearby national park). Far too many people have bought into the Cleveland jokes, and have the image of us as a dirty, smelly factory town; which may have a grain of truth to it, but neglects to mention that the factory founders and owners were from Cleveland too, and their wealth created some spectacular things. Also the legacy of a polluted, dirty factory city is long in the past, with our much cleaner air and waterways, and an economy that's now more focused on medical and white collar industries.
Overrated: Minneapolis - Overpriced and overhyped. Nothing really special, just above average mid-sized city. Nothing stands out except perhaps the nice parks and lakes that dot the city. Locals have a stuck up attitude about this city. It's a good city, but it's not great. The dining, cultural activities, museums, etc. are all just what any big city should have, nothing really special.
Your point about the size of Boston (40 some square miles of city proper) is irrelevant. Boston's limits don't include Cambridge, Somerville, Quincy, Brookline, a number of other highly populated areas. These places are just as much a part of "Boston" as any neighborhood in the arbitrary limits. Boston's MSA is over 4.5 million. That's #10 in the country. I'm curious why you mention Philly's MSA to boost its numbers, but don't do the same for Boston. Only mentioning that Boston not even the 20th largest city is really not telling the whole story. By your logic, Jacksonville should be a much more urban, cosmopolitan place than Boston.
And nobody goes to Boston and says, "well, I liked it, but the skyline wasn't that great. I wouldn't go back." I'll never understand some of you people and your obsession with the single most irrelevant aspect of what makes a city great.
And what the hell does "provincial" even mean?
I think people just like hating on Boston. I mean, I get it. I'm not a native Bostonian (lived in Boston for 1.5 years only), I hate Tom Brady too, but I just can't see what any of you guys are talking about.
Nope, Im telling you. To people who ere born in raised in Boston anyone who isnt form Boston is not from Boston. Sure growing up I was cool with Cambridge Everett Somerville Brookline and Randolph kids. But they were not from Boston never claimed to be and would not be called form Boston. Boston in the city, is a different beast from these other cities which have their own distinct and unique history's. But your not native so you wouldn't understand. This is Boston Provincialism and its in my bones. Your are not from Boston if youre from Quincy or Malden or some place. Those are separate cities that are very different form neighborhood like Dorchester/East Boston/South Boston/Mattapan/Hyde Park/Roslindale /South End/West Roxbury/Mission Hill etc. The biggest difference is crime and bad schools to be honet. If you're growing up as a kid in Boston you will be effectively shut out of downtown and subject to poor schools and high degrees of crime, bussing and racial animosity. The only places within 20 miles of Boston like that are Lynn and Brockton and those are usually Boston ex-pats. Thus Bostonians come out kind of messed up, which is why so many are simply not around by the time college graduates settle in to the city. By age 22/23 most native born Bostonian people are sadly working menial jobs, in a union and n their block, drugged out, in Florida, maybe Georgia if they are black, dead, in Brockton/Lynn/ or in jail. If none of these negative things happened and they got thru college thanks to METCO Catholic or Private schools theyre 100% in NYC or DC. Its the truth and we all know its our little dark secret. Boston is overrated brother. SImply the fact that our downton and touristy area is only like 3 square miles should be a red flag. Then its just pretentious yupster ville to the north and west for 20 Square miles. Then we have 20 square miles to the south and east of Downtown of ghetto and another 20 quare miles to the south and west of boring overpriced middle classness. But I like the Celtics and Patriots. OVERRATED
Underrated: Cleveland - Offers the amenities of equal quality to most big cities out East including spectacular playhouses, orchestra, museums, excellent dining options, yet very unpretentious, culturally diverse, beautiful opulent early 20th century architecture everywhere, excellent natural features (one of the nation's best metroparks systems, a nearby national park). Far too many people have bought into the Cleveland jokes, and have the image of us as a dirty, smelly factory town; which may have a grain of truth to it, but neglects to mention that the factory founders and owners were from Cleveland too, and their wealth created some spectacular things. Also the legacy of a polluted, dirty factory city is long in the past, with our much cleaner air and waterways, and an economy that's now more focused on medical and white collar industries.
Overrated: Minneapolis - Overpriced and overhyped. Nothing really special, just above average mid-sized city. Nothing stands out except perhaps the nice parks and lakes that dot the city. Locals have a stuck up attitude about this city. It's a good city, but it's not great. The dining, cultural activities, museums, etc. are all just what any big city should have, nothing really special.
You had to do it, didn't you? Two can play that game:
You had to do it, didn't you? Two can play that game:
Overrated: Cleveland
Underrated: Akron
agree about Cleveland being overrated, I was stuck there for a week one day and went to one of their museums that while nice looking on the outside, had nothing of worth on display unless you count Drew Carey's coloring books from his youth as being someting special.
Underrated: Cleveland - Offers the amenities of equal quality to most big cities out East including spectacular playhouses, orchestra, museums, excellent dining options, yet very unpretentious, culturally diverse, beautiful opulent early 20th century architecture everywhere, excellent natural features (one of the nation's best metroparks systems, a nearby national park). Far too many people have bought into the Cleveland jokes, and have the image of us as a dirty, smelly factory town; which may have a grain of truth to it, but neglects to mention that the factory founders and owners were from Cleveland too, and their wealth created some spectacular things. Also the legacy of a polluted, dirty factory city is long in the past, with our much cleaner air and waterways, and an economy that's now more focused on medical and white collar industries.
Overrated: Minneapolis - Overpriced and overhyped. Nothing really special, just above average mid-sized city. Nothing stands out except perhaps the nice parks and lakes that dot the city. Locals have a stuck up attitude about this city. It's a good city, but it's not great. The dining, cultural activities, museums, etc. are all just what any big city should have, nothing really special.
Hah, you miss no opportunity to swipe Minneapolis for even the most feeble of reasons, do you. What's your deal, man?
While I do agree with you that Cleveland is underrated, how can you seriously call Minneapolis the most overrated city in the North? 90% of Americans couldn't even point to it on a map, let alone have any idea of what's here, or—dare I say—think too highly of it. You can't be overrated when no one knows you exist.
agree about Cleveland being overrated, I was stuck there for a week one day and went to one of their museums that while nice looking on the outside, had nothing of worth on display unless you count Drew Carey's coloring books from his youth as being someting special.
Oh wow, you went to "one of their museums" -- which ever one it was, isn't relevant, apparently... This post is really intelligent and enlightening. I'm sure people could learn a whole lot from it...
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