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Chicago most violent sections are the worst in the country but they are relegated to small parts of Chicago. Englewood Chicago is a war zone on par with Mexican border cities and the Middle East like Syria and Iraq.
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According to this list, Chicago has one neighborhood in the top 25 (even though this uses all violent crime and not just murders). And I gotta say your description of Englewood Chicago is a pretty wild exaggeration. I used to visit Englewood monthly and definitely didn't see rockets hitting buildings and suicide bombings like you probably would in Syria.. In all honesty I've been through neighborhoods in Baltimore and Detroit that made me question whether or not we were even in the hood when I first visited Englewood.
I did an analysis recently on Chicago's murder stats.
Safest Areas:
14% of population in areas with no murders
31% of population in areas with murder rate of 1.09/100,000
40% of population in areas with murder rate of 1.67/100,000
50% of population in areas with murder rate of 2.60/100,000
57% of population in areas with murder rate of 3.26/100,000
68% of population in areas with murder rate of 4.89/100,000 National Average
Most Dangerous Areas:
16% of population in areas with murder rate of 53.15/100,000
22% of population in areas with murder rate of 47.91/100,000
32% of population in areas with murder rate of 40.55/100,000
43% of population in areas with murder rate of 33.26/100,000
To Replace That With Number Of People:
Safest Areas:
377,000 of population in areas with no murders
822,000 of population in areas with murder rate of 1.09/100,000
1,076,000 of population in areas with murder rate of 1.67/100,000
1,345,000 of population in areas with murder rate of 2.60/100,000
1,532,000 of population in areas with murder rate of 3.26/100,000
1,840,000 of population in areas with murder rate of 4.89/100,000
Most Dangerous Areas:
430,000 of population in areas with murder rate of 53.15/100,000
591,000 of population in areas with murder rate of 47.91/100,000
856,000 of population in areas with murder rate of 40.55/100,000
1,163,000 of population in areas with murder rate of 33.26/100,000
Chicago has a high rate and lots of murders, but when people say you're just making excuses or avoiding the truth when you say that most people live in nice areas - you have to realize that for the 68% of the city's population that live in areas with murder rates below the national average - you can't blame them for stopping someone who blankets the entire city as a "war zone". Or says they're afraid to visit because they don't want to be killed.
It's like this in most cities, but for the sheer size of it, it's something to acknowledge that areas with more people than the entire cities of San Fran, Boston, Washington DC or Seattle has murder rates of around 1.0/100,000. They exist as well in their safe neighborhoods. Of course you never hear about the safe areas, but that makes sense as the news SHOULD be on the troubled areas.
On the flip side there are areas with populations as large as the entire cities of Detroit, Baltimore and St Louis that have murder rates similar to those cities as well.
Of course the cities of St Louis, Detroit and Baltimore also have plent of nice areas within them with low rates. If I section out only the worst areas of Chicago with comparable populations and compare them to the cities of St Louis, Detroit and Baltimore and come up with similar overall homicide rates, population being similar (which I have) - I would have to assume the WORST areas of St Louis, Detroit or Baltimore are probably worse than the worst areas of Chicago.
Only 7 neighborhoods in Chicago have a homicide rate at 50 per 100,000 or above, and those neighborhoods have a combined population of about 137,000 people or so. Chicago has 77 official community areas, and many more neighborhoods.
I have a feeling some of the neighborhoods in North City in St. Louis will be able to blast those neighborhood rates as well. Chicago is not the only city where murder is primarily relegated to certain parts of town.
A few neighborhoods in North St. Louis have homicide rates upwards of 250/100k which is just insane, it's 2x as deadly as being in Caracas, 6-7x as dangerous as in Ciudad Juarez and about ten times as dangerous as in Rio de Janeiro
A few neighborhoods in North St. Louis have homicide rates upwards of 250/100k which is just insane, it's 2x as deadly as being in Caracas, 6-7x as dangerous as in Ciudad Juarez and about ten times as dangerous as in Rio de Janeiro
Herein lies the problem with just looking at easily manipulated stats... Those couple of St. Louis neighborhoods aren't really that dangerous to a normal (non gang/ drug trade involved individual) person... Most people will just wonder why you're there.
Boston is a super safe city for its size, I made fun of people for saying Roxbury and Dorchester is ghetto, Baltimore, Memphis and, New Orleans Detroit are really bad overall, Chicago is the worst but its mostly on the West and South sides of the city its easy to avoid crime in Baltimore is widespread and same with Detroit.
I have lived in the worst (or second worst) city in the whole New england (which is in the Boston MSA), this city is Brockton... And whle it has its share of crime, I never felt unsafe, and I had to spend a night in Boston south station (my train was at 7 am and there were no early buses from Brockton to bosto so I hade to stay up all night) and besides some big ass rats, I did not felt unsafe at all
The south side of Boston is very white, very poor, and very dangerous.
The worst part of Boston are Dorchester, Roxbury and Mattapan... None of those are "white" neighborhood and none of them are very dangerous... They can be tough but not very dangerous
A few neighborhoods in North St. Louis have homicide rates upwards of 250/100k which is just insane, it's 2x as deadly as being in Caracas, 6-7x as dangerous as in Ciudad Juarez and about ten times as dangerous as in Rio de Janeiro
How large was the neighborhood though? I mean my hometown of Coralville, Iowa could see a family of 4 killed in a domestic incident in their house, but because the population of the town is only 18,000 people that means that my hometown would actually have a homicide rate of 22/100,000.
Chicago's most dangerous community area is one on the south side. It had 18 murders and only has a population of 18,000 - so the homicide rate for that area is 100/100,000.
Alternatively the 29 community areas that are the safest, generally downtown and the north side - also had 18 murders among their 1,095,000 people. Or a rate of 1.6/100,000
I read the St Louis news online, that's where I always get the homicide count and all I can say is....I wouldn't want to venture into the north side neighborhoods. That city has alot of freakin crime for being 300,000+ people. It's outrageous.
And when I read the Cleveland news, it seems almost every homicide is in the east part of the city. I actually have been to the east side of the city though, didn't get to see a lot of it cause I turned around.
I read the St Louis news online, that's where I always get the homicide count and all I can say is....I wouldn't want to venture into the north side neighborhoods. That city has alot of freakin crime for being 300,000+ people. It's outrageous.
And when I read the Cleveland news, it seems almost every homicide is in the east part of the city. I actually have been to the east side of the city though, didn't get to see a lot of it cause I turned around.
Yeah I've heard of East side Cleveland from someone who used to live in Ohio. It's known to have some rough areas.
In terms of St. Louis, I overheard someone behind me on the bus being from St. Louis. She talked about how the disparity of wealth and education is bad there. She said parts of the city were very nice but due to socioeconomic segregation, a lot of the poorer neighborhoods suffer from horrendous crime rates due to lack of education, wealth, and resources.
In terms of St. Louis, I overheard someone behind me on the bus being from St. Louis. She talked about how the disparity of wealth and education is bad there. She said parts of the city were very nice but due to socioeconomic segregation, a lot of the poorer neighborhoods suffer from horrendous crime rates due to lack of education, wealth, and resources.
Unfortunately this description applies to a lot of American cities.
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