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St. Louis' has backslide back to the 90s this year not only in absolute numbers, but also its homicide rate as well. It's super shocking. I believe I also read that Baltimore's current rate is worse than its been in many decades.
Chicago's homicide rate is lower than the majority of the cities you just mentioned. How is it the worst?
Chicago most violent sections are the worst in the country but they are relegated to small parts of Chicago. Englewood Chicago is a war zone on par with Mexican border cities and the Middle East like Syria and Iraq.
Chicago most violent sections are the worst in the country but they are relegated to small parts of Chicago. Englewood Chicago is a war zone on par with Mexican border cities and the Middle East like Syria and Iraq.
Chicago most violent sections are the worst in the country but they are relegated to small parts of Chicago. Englewood Chicago is a war zone on par with Mexican border cities and the Middle East like Syria and Iraq.
Only 7 neighborhoods in Chicago have a homicide rate at 50 per 100,000 or above, and those neighborhoods have a combined population of about 137,000 people or so. Chicago has 77 official community areas, and many more neighborhoods.
I have a feeling some of the neighborhoods in North City in St. Louis will be able to blast those neighborhood rates as well. Chicago is not the only city where murder is primarily relegated to certain parts of town.
Only 7 neighborhoods in Chicago have a homicide rate at 50 per 100,000 or above, and those neighborhoods have a combined population of about 137,000 people or so. Chicago has 77 official community areas, and many more neighborhoods.
I have a feeling some of the neighborhoods in North City in St. Louis will be able to blast those neighborhood rates as well. Chicago is not the only city where murder is primarily relegated to certain parts of town.
Exactly. If we're going to start breaking down cities into neighborhoods to highlight more violent tracks, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Only 7 neighborhoods in Chicago have a homicide rate at 50 per 100,000 or above, and those neighborhoods have a combined population of about 137,000 people or so. Chicago has 77 official community areas, and many more neighborhoods.
I have a feeling some of the neighborhoods in North City in St. Louis will be able to blast those neighborhood rates as well. Chicago is not the only city where murder is primarily relegated to certain parts of town.
I did an analysis recently on Chicago's murder stats.
Safest Areas:
14% of population in areas with no murders
31% of population in areas with murder rate of 1.09/100,000
40% of population in areas with murder rate of 1.67/100,000
50% of population in areas with murder rate of 2.60/100,000
57% of population in areas with murder rate of 3.26/100,000
68% of population in areas with murder rate of 4.89/100,000 National Average
Most Dangerous Areas:
16% of population in areas with murder rate of 53.15/100,000
22% of population in areas with murder rate of 47.91/100,000
32% of population in areas with murder rate of 40.55/100,000
43% of population in areas with murder rate of 33.26/100,000
To Replace That With Number Of People:
Safest Areas:
377,000 of population in areas with no murders
822,000 of population in areas with murder rate of 1.09/100,000
1,076,000 of population in areas with murder rate of 1.67/100,000
1,345,000 of population in areas with murder rate of 2.60/100,000
1,532,000 of population in areas with murder rate of 3.26/100,000
1,840,000 of population in areas with murder rate of 4.89/100,000
Most Dangerous Areas:
430,000 of population in areas with murder rate of 53.15/100,000
591,000 of population in areas with murder rate of 47.91/100,000
856,000 of population in areas with murder rate of 40.55/100,000
1,163,000 of population in areas with murder rate of 33.26/100,000
Chicago has a high rate and lots of murders, but when people say you're just making excuses or avoiding the truth when you say that most people live in nice areas - you have to realize that for the 68% of the city's population that live in areas with murder rates below the national average - you can't blame them for stopping someone who blankets the entire city as a "war zone". Or says they're afraid to visit because they don't want to be killed.
It's like this in most cities, but for the sheer size of it, it's something to acknowledge that areas with more people than the entire cities of San Fran, Boston, Washington DC or Seattle has murder rates of around 1.0/100,000. They exist as well in their safe neighborhoods. Of course you never hear about the safe areas, but that makes sense as the news SHOULD be on the troubled areas.
On the flip side there are areas with populations as large as the entire cities of Detroit, Baltimore and St Louis that have murder rates similar to those cities as well.
Of course the cities of St Louis, Detroit and Baltimore also have plent of nice areas within them with low rates. If I section out only the worst areas of Chicago with comparable populations and compare them to the cities of St Louis, Detroit and Baltimore and come up with similar overall homicide rates, population being similar (which I have) - I would have to assume the WORST areas of St Louis, Detroit or Baltimore are probably worse than the worst areas of Chicago.
Last edited by Chicago60614; 12-08-2015 at 04:11 PM..
I did an analysis recently on Chicago's murder stats.
Safest Areas:
14% of population in areas with no murders
31% of population in areas with murder rate of 1.09/100,000
40% of population in areas with murder rate of 1.67/100,000
50% of population in areas with murder rate of 2.60/100,000
57% of population in areas with murder rate of 3.26/100,000
68% of population in areas with murder rate of 4.89/100,000 National Average
Most Dangerous Areas:
16% of population in areas with murder rate of 53.15/100,000
22% of population in areas with murder rate of 47.91/100,000
32% of population in areas with murder rate of 40.55/100,000
43% of population in areas with murder rate of 33.26/100,000
To Replace That With Number Of People:
Safest Areas:
377,000 of population in areas with no murders
822,000 of population in areas with murder rate of 1.09/100,000
1,076,000 of population in areas with murder rate of 1.67/100,000
1,345,000 of population in areas with murder rate of 2.60/100,000
1,532,000 of population in areas with murder rate of 3.26/100,000
1,840,000 of population in areas with murder rate of 4.89/100,000
Most Dangerous Areas:
430,000 of population in areas with murder rate of 53.15/100,000
591,000 of population in areas with murder rate of 47.91/100,000
856,000 of population in areas with murder rate of 40.55/100,000
1,163,000 of population in areas with murder rate of 33.26/100,000
Chicago has a high rate and lots of murders, but when people say you're just making excuses or avoiding the truth when you say that most people live in nice areas - you have to realize that for the 68% of the city's population that live in areas with murder rates below the national average - you can't blame them for stopping someone who blankets the entire city as a "war zone". Or says they're afraid to visit because they don't want to be killed.
It's like this in most cities, but for the sheer size of it, it's something to acknowledge that areas with more people than the entire cities of San Fran, Boston, Washington DC or Seattle has murder rates of around 1.0/100,000. They exist as well in their safe neighborhoods. Of course you never hear about the safe areas, but that makes sense as the news SHOULD be on the troubled areas.
On the flip side there are areas with populations as large as the entire cities of Detroit, Baltimore and St Louis that have murder rates similar to those cities as well.
Of course the cities of St Louis, Detroit and Baltimore also have plent of nice areas within them with low rates. If I section out only the worst areas of Chicago with comparable populations and compare them to the cities of St Louis, Detroit and Baltimore and come up with similar overall homicide rates, population being similar (which I have) - I would have to assume the WORST areas of St Louis, Detroit or Baltimore are probably worse than the worst areas of Chicago.
The thing about he City of Boston or Washington the most dangerous areas of the metro area are within city Limits.
If you expanded Boston to include Waltham, Brookline, Newton, Chelsea, Cambridge, Somerville, Everett (500,000 people) you would only add a few murders.
In 2014 all of New England (14.4 million people) had 282 murders, • U.S. homicide: number of murders by state 2014 | Statistic
Chicago (2.9 million people) had 460 murders
5x the population had 61% of the murders, no matter how you slice it its bad
Chicago most violent sections are the worst in the country but they are relegated to small parts of Chicago. Englewood Chicago is a war zone on par with Mexican border cities and the Middle East like Syria and Iraq.
No it is not. What's going on right now in Syria and Iraq would make Chicago seem like heaven. Are you following what's going on over there? Lol per capita Chicago isn't even top 5 in america for homicides. Lol
He was talking about the worst neighborhood of Chicago. As a reference the worst Neighborhood in Houston, Sunnyside has a murder rate between 150/100,000 and 250/100,000 every year but it is mostly a declining neighborhood of less than 5,000 people so the entire area really only has 7-13 murders a year. In ten years though their most shocking statistic by far is over 100/1000 people in the neighborhood get a violent crime committed against them, so that is a 100% violent crime rate in the span of 10 years.
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