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Didn't realize DFW was almost 2.5 M more people than the Boston MSA.
Also, you have Atlanta two tiers below DFW yet people keep saying that Atlanta is the most important city in the south. I think people keep confusing the south with the SE. Atlanta is still the king of the South East, but the South is a huge .
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In that Image DFW HAS a centralized position and anchors 7.1M people.
The North east has a clear King, the Midwest has a clear king, the West has a clear king, Atlanta is the clear king of the SE, but had to say which is the clear king in the South. DFW by far is the biggest and along with Houston has by far the biggest economy, but still kind of hard to say it is more important than Miami and Atlanta.
Then Detroit is somewhat questionable when the core of the CSA has rotted out, dropping 1 MILLION people in the City since 1960 or 60% AND because so much of the auto industry has left for the Sunbelt. Detroit metro is really closer to 4 million CSA and 3 million MSA.
The suburbs grew by 2.6 million in the same time frame. With the city's current population that's still a just under 4 million. Not only that, but Detrot's MSA includes 3 mostly rural counties that adds another 300,000 residents.
Also most of the car companies that are operating in the Southern US are foreign automakers who had little to no presence anywhere in Michigan at anytime. If anything, most of the Big 3 located in Detroit have often moved their operations to Mexico. Besides which, there's still an economy in Metro Detroit outside of the auto industry.
Then Detroit is somewhat questionable when the core of the CSA has rotted out, dropping 1 MILLION people in the City since 1960 or 60% AND because so much of the auto industry has left for the Sunbelt. Detroit metro is really closer to 4 million CSA and 3 million MSA.
What? Your thinking is very simplistic. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Are you just pulling numbs out of the air and trying to pass them off as something you actually have knowledge of?
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Crowded, expensive, worse traffic, and politicians. You can do that comparison for many cities WEST of the Mississippi. Natural barriers to sprawl are fewer, so no need to pile everyone into a denser area. Overall, the Mid-Atlantic/NE corridor has seen a 50 year loss of residents to places like Houston. That is not likely to change with more immigration to the Sun Belt coming from the Pacific Rim and Latin America
You do realize the DC area has the 5th largest numerical population growth in the nation this decade don't you? And has pretty much followed suit the past 45 years. The rest of the NEC hasn't grown like DC. It pretty much has "sunbelt like" growth over that time frame.
Didn't realize DFW was almost 2.5 M more people than the Boston MSA.
Also, you have Atlanta two tiers below DFW yet people keep saying that Atlanta is the most important city in the south. I think people keep confusing the south with the SE. Atlanta is still the king of the South East, but the South is a huge .
This is a public use image from wiki commons, permission given by the author, Stephen F to be used by anyone .
In that Image DFW HAS a centralized position and anchors 7.1M people.
The North east has a clear King, the Midwest has a clear king, the West has a clear king, Atlanta is the clear king of the SE, but had to say which is the clear king in the South. DFW by far is the biggest and along with Houston has by far the biggest economy, but still kind of hard to say it is more important than Miami and Atlanta.
The thing is Atlanta has no large metros near it so it's sphere of influence is very large. It holds the title over a very distinct area....you can draw a circle with a 600 mile radius around Atlanta and you still don't hit a metro over 4 million though you do begin closing in on both Miami and D.C. That just goes to show you how "un-urbanize" the South is.
Dallas, while 7.1 million is right near Houston who some would argue is the most important city in Texas so they both don't have large spheres of influences.
The thing is Atlanta has no large metros near it so it's sphere of influence is very large. It holds the title over a very distinct area....you can draw a circle with a 600 mile radius around Atlanta and you still don't hit a metro over 4 million though you do begin closing in on both Miami and D.C. That just goes to show you how "un-urbanize" the South is.
Dallas, while 7.1 million is right near Houston who some would argue is the most important city in Texas so they both don't have large spheres of influences.
You can say something similar about Denver, but wouldn't call it king of the West. It is king of a subset of the west.
Atlanta is central to its region. Its identity is generally "southern" first and foremost, while the identities of Houston and (especially) DFW are "Texan" before anything else. They are on the fringe of the south, if southern at all.
Denver is arguably Midwestern, as it sits on the Great Plains, which some consider a sub-region of the greater Midwest. But again, wherever it is, it is on the boundary.
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