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Actually Tampa on that particular list was my bad altogether. I didn't mean to intentionally use that definition in the official population count list. I had forgotten to change Tampa back to its official designated MSA. I had just copied and pasted the earlier PCSA list that I compiled in this thread and added a few more American places (over 2 million) and the Mexican and Canadian ones that applied.
The Tampa Bay Area, as defined by the Florida State Departments and the Regional Planning Commissions as comprised of the following;
Tampa Bay Area
- Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL MSA: 2,975,225
- North Port-Sarasota, FL CSA: 977,491
- Lakeland-Winter Haven, FL MSA: 650,092
- Homosassa Springs, FL MSA: 141,058
- Tampa Bay Area 2015: 4,743,866
- Tampa Bay Area 2014: 4,644,683
- Difference in 12 months: + 99,183
North America [United States (2015)-Canada (2015)-Mexico (2015)]: 01. New York (CSA): 23,723,696 02. Greater Mexico City: 20,892,724 03. Los Angeles (CSA): 18,679,763 04. Chicago (CSA): 9,923,358 05. Washington DC-Baltimore (CSA): 9,625,360 06. Toronto's Greater Golden Horseshoe: 8,832,219 07. San Francisco Bay Area (CSA): 8,713,914 08. Boston (CSA): 8,152,573 09. Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex (CSA): 7,504,362 10. Philadelphia (CSA): 7,183,479 11. Houston (CSA): 6,855,069 12. Miami/Fort Lauderdale (CSA): 6,654,565 13. Atlanta (CSA): 6,365,108 14. Detroit (CSA): 5,319,913 15. Greater Guadalajara: 4,796,603 16. Tampa Bay Area (FL DOF): 4,743,866 17. Seattle (CSA): 4,602,591 18. Phoenix (MSA): 4,574,531 19. Greater Monterrey: 4,475,949 20. Greater Montreal: 4,060,692 21. Minneapolis/Saint Paul (CSA): 3,866,768 22. Cleveland (CSA): 3,493,596 23. Denver (CSA): 3,418,876 24. San Diego (MSA): 3,299,521 25. Orlando (CSA): 3,129,308 26. Portland (CSA): 3,110,906 27. Greater Puebla: 2,941,988 28. Saint Louis (CSA): 2,916,447 29. Pittsburgh (CSA): 2,648,605 30. Charlotte (CSA): 2,583,956 31. Sacramento (CSA): 2,544,026 32. Greater Vancouver: 2,504,340 33. Salt Lake City (CSA): 2,467,709 34. Kansas City (CSA): 2,428,362 35. Columbus (CSA): 2,424,831 36. San Antonio (MSA): 2,384,075 37. Indianapolis (CSA): 2,372,530 38. Las Vegas (CSA): 2,362,015 39. Cincinnati (CSA): 2,216,735 40. Raleigh/Durham (CSA): 2,117,103 41. Greater Toluca: 2,116,506 42. Milwaukee (CSA): 2,046,692 43. Austin (MSA): 2,000,860
One thing about adding Mexico City in there... There is no such thing as a CSA in Mexico. "Greater Mexico City" is basically the MSA, or as close to the equivalent as they have. It is also only about 800 square miles in size compared to New York's almost 4,500 square miles. There really isn't a comparison there.
Also, CSA's don't really have a lot of use in general besides maybe determining media market size.
One thing about adding Mexico City in there... There is no such thing as a CSA in Mexico. "Greater Mexico City" is basically the MSA, or as close to the equivalent as they have. It is also only about 800 square miles in size compared to New York's almost 4,500 square miles. There really isn't a comparison there.
Also, CSA's don't really have a lot of use in general besides maybe determining media market size.
I'm aware of there being no CSAs in Mexico or any other country outside of America. I use the highest definition that I know of for everywhere.
Greater Mexico City is what Mexico views as Mexico City and its suburbs and the metropolitan area as a whole I believe.
What's even more interesting is that the central Texas IH 35 corridor from Waco to San Antonio grew 120,000 in 1 year. That's alot of growth for 1 year! With the central Texas economy being healthly and a low unemployment rate for those cities, I expect the growth to continue to be high or higher. We could reach up to almost 150,000 per year this year.
Never gave Waco much thought but now that you mention it, we can expect it and other cities on the 35 corridor to grow. This as an alternative to the huge growth occuring in Austin, SA, and DFW and the cost of living increases and traffic that go with it. In particular Austin.
It grew by just shy of 14,000 people in the last one year.
In contrast;
- El Paso-Las Cruces, TX-NM CSA: 1,053,267
The Rio Grande Valley is making the gap between it and the El Paso area wider each year.
Also I am looking forward to the release of census information from both Canada and Mexico soon. Would be great to have an idea of how massive San Diego-Tijuana are now, in addition to Detroit-Windsor, Vancouver-Bellingham, El Paso-Juarez, and both the American side and Mexican side of the Rio Grande Valley put together.
In addition to see where the Greater Golden Horseshoe (Toronto) and smaller scaled metrics such as the Toronto CMA and Greater Toronto Area (GTA) are at now.
The Border metros are not often talked about but they are increasingly becoming major areas. I think there problem is their comparatively low $$$ status.
Brownsville for example has serious poverty issues.
But the sizes of these areas are interesting. El Paso-Juarez-Las cruces area has more people than the San Antonio area. The Rio Grande Valley cross border area also is approaching 3 M people.
I didn't even realize that the greater Laredo area was over 700,000 people and Corpus over 500K.
With 4 Statistical areas outside of the Texas Triangle with 500K or more people, I'm beginning to look at Texas differently.
The Border metros are not often talked about but they are increasingly becoming major areas. I think there problem is their comparatively low $$$ status.
Brownsville for example has serious poverty issues.
But the sizes of these areas are interesting. El Paso-Juarez-Las cruces area has more people than the San Antonio area. The Rio Grande Valley cross border area also is approaching 3 M people.
I didn't even realize that the greater Laredo area was over 700,000 people and Corpus over 500K.
With 4 Statistical areas outside of the Texas Triangle with 500K or more people, I'm beginning to look at Texas differently.
You can't count areas across an international border. That makes no sense.
Most people can't even cross the border, on either side, so they are separate areas.
I mean exactly what I wrote. You are counting whole different countries to make up fictional U.S. metro populations.
Isn't all metro creations fictional?
Metros are just areas loosely pieced together based on economics.
Laredo: From Wikipedia
Quote:
More than 47% of United States international trade headed for Mexico and more than 36% of Mexican international trade crosses through the Laredo–Nuevo Laredo port of entries. This is the reason that the borderplex's economy rotates around commercial and industrial warehousing, import, and export. The city of Nuevo Laredo has the Quetzalcóatl International Airport which has daily flights to Mexico City. These airports also handle merchandise to export to the neighboring country.
Retail sales also helps the Laredo–Nuevo Laredo economy, it attracts shoppers from Northern Mexico and South Texas.
Border agencies tally nearly 40 million legal visits a year by Mexicans coming to Texas for leisure activities. The Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas figures they spent $3 billion on merchandise in Texas border counties in 2004, the latest data available, up from around $1.6 billion a decade earlier. In the past 10 years, retail sales in McAllen have risen more than 75%, nearly double the nationwide pace of 40% Per-capita sales here are twice the national average, according to the U.S. Census Bureau
The McAllen Foreign-Trade Zone (FTZ) is located south of McAllen between McAllen and Reynosa. Commissioned in 1973, it was the first inland foreign trade zone in the United States and continuously ranks among the most active FTZs in the nation. There is also a Foreign-Trade Zone designation site at the McAllen-Miller International Airport to facilitate air cargo needs. Under U.S. and Mexican laws and NAFTA provisions, the FTZ designation offers specific cost-saving opportunities to manufacturers. Products can be brought into the FTZ duty-free.
from Wikipedia
El Paso:
Quote:
El Paso–Juárez is a major center for manufacturing and international trade. It is the largest port of entry on the U.S./Mexico border. The region is also the second most important trade point on the border and the 16th largest trading center in the U.S. In 2000 approximately US$33 billion in trade took place in the region.
The area employs approximately 262,000 people in manufacturing with 85% of those in Juárez. Many of the workers in Juárez, however, live in the United States.
Regional cooperation Edit
Though the national boundaries are an important point of separation, efforts at regional planning and economic integration exist in the local governments and the business communities. Regional business advocacy groups such as El Paso Regional Economic Development Corporation and World Trade Center El Paso/Juárez serve to attract businesses to the area and market its benefits.Efforts at community and environmental cooperation including the Paso del Norte Clean Cities Coalition exist as well. As of 2009 proposals are being discussed at the regional level to create passenger rail systems connecting El Paso with Juárez.
again from Wikipedia
This isn't city data bragging rights. It's areas, though separated by an international border are unified in economics, transportation, sports and recreation.
To me some of these areas are far more unified than some of these purely USA CSAs.
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