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View Poll Results: Which is the better city?
San Jose 9 9.89%
Sacramento 27 29.67%
Long Beach 30 32.97%
Oakland 25 27.47%
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Old 07-04-2016, 08:56 PM
 
Location: where the good looking people are
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I hate the Norcal/SoCal rivalry crap. It doesn't matter. It's equivalent to saying that San Francisco is better than Los Angeles because it's more expensive to live there. It's all subjective.
I don't care what you love or hate dude. I was simply pointing out SoCal obviously has 7 major airports to NorCals 4.


That is the thing, NorCal boosters are on cloud 9 in city data. You got someone from Oakland, the most ghetto city in the western US trying to call other places ghetto.

The same person trying to claim long beach is a suburb of LA, when most of Oakland's residents who have actual fulltime jobs commute to SF. That is where Oakland is similar to San Jose in that regard. Their sole function is to be a bedroom community to near by job centers. Well I take that back, San Jose actually has legit tech companies HQed there and large satellite offices for companies like Google and Apple ( a company worth more than the entire Russian stock exchange)
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Old 07-04-2016, 10:26 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area, California
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I don't care what you love or hate dude. I was simply pointing out SoCal obviously has 7 major airports to NorCals 4.


That is the thing, NorCal boosters are on cloud 9 in city data. You got someone from Oakland, the most ghetto city in the western US trying to call other places ghetto.

The same person trying to claim long beach is a suburb of LA, when most of Oakland's residents who have actual fulltime jobs commute to SF. That is where Oakland is similar to San Jose in that regard. Their sole function is to be a bedroom community to near by job centers. Well I take that back, San Jose actually has legit tech companies HQed there and large satellite offices for companies like Google and Apple ( a company worth more than the entire Russian stock exchange)
Well the way you were doing it was if there was some sort of competition between who had more, which is ridiculous. Southern California has a larger population therefore more airports.
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Old 07-04-2016, 11:38 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Well the way you were doing it was if there was some sort of competition between who had more, which is ridiculous. Southern California has a larger population therefore more airports.
Yes clearly a nerve was struck with him.

Long Beach has no international flights because the demand clearly is not there. SFO and OAK are close together yet Oakland has Europe flights. Long Beach doesnt even have flights to Mexico.

Strange.

In fact, all 4 major major Norcal airports have international flights.
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Old 07-04-2016, 11:54 PM
 
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I have flown in and out of Sac many times. The new terminal is nice, but the tram is moronic.
Terminal B at Sacramento International is by far nicer than all of Oaklands terminals and nicer than San Jose's. It's nicer than Burbank, Ontario, Orange County, Long Beach, and San Diego's Terminals. And nicer than most of the terminals at LAX except the new International terminal.

How can a tram be moronic, thats just silly.

Sacramento's new Terminal B's gates/concourse were built far out into the tarmac so the old Terminal B could remain open during construction. Because Terminal B's gates/concourse is too far of a walk for the average person and surely too far of walk for the elderly and disabled, instead of building a super long hall/walkway, they built the tram instead.

The tram is quick and efficient, and very easy to use, by far easier than many other trams I've used at dozens of other airports.

One of the main reasons trams are used at airports is because of the long distance between terminals, and/or gates and concourses. There are various reasons why terminals/concourses are built so far from each other.

If a super long hall/walkway was built instead of the tram, people would endlessly complain about the long distance to the gates, and those man-driven wheeled carts that they use for the disabled and elderly would cause a traffic nightmare within the hall/walkway and they are dangerous to walking passengers. This is why dedicated tramways and trams are built.

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Old 07-05-2016, 12:02 AM
 
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In fact, all 4 major major Norcal airports have international flights.
He doesn't get that NorCal has only 10 million to SoCal's 20 million people, and NorCal has 4 major airports.

The only major airports in SoCal are LAX, Ontario, Orange County, Burbank and San Diego. (Long Beach and Palm Springs are not major airports)
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Old 07-05-2016, 05:12 AM
 
Location: where the good looking people are
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He doesn't get that NorCal has only 10 million to SoCal's 20 million people, and NorCal has 4 major airports.

The only major airports in SoCal are LAX, Ontario, Orange County, Burbank and San Diego. (Long Beach and Palm Springs are not major airports)
Long Beach airport has about 1.4 million passangers a year, it's a major airport. Palm Springs is too. Just stop already. These are major airports that see hundreds of thousands and millions of passangers yearly. You can continue your little dellusional fantasy that they are not.
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Old 07-05-2016, 05:16 AM
 
Location: where the good looking people are
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Well the way you were doing it was if there was some sort of competition between who had more, which is ridiculous. Southern California has a larger population therefore more airports.
What did I do other than correct a Sac homer who is known to hyper exaggerate everything about Sacramento? He is the same person who tries to claim Sac is the same metro as the bay. I simply pointed out out SoCal has 7 major airports to NorCals 4. Pretty simple.

As some one who grew up literally right next door to LAX, it is comical to see NorCal homers hyping up rinky dink airports like Oakland and Sac. Oakland has a couple flights a week to London and Lisbon, and dude is like "We got Europe flights!" LOL! !!!!!!

Sac offers a couple flights a week to some crappy cities in Mexico and this dude is pumping his chest because he thinks that makes them an international airport, LoL. Guess what Calexico is an international airport too! They have flights to Mexico too! LOL! !!!!!!

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Old 07-05-2016, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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He doesn't get that NorCal has only 10 million to SoCal's 20 million people, and NorCal has 4 major airports.

The only major airports in SoCal are LAX, Ontario, Orange County, Burbank and San Diego. (Long Beach and Palm Springs are not major airports)
As far as the LA CSA, the international flights outside of LAX are surprisingly bleak:

Orange County: 3 international destinations
Puerto Vallarta
San Jose del Cabo
Vancouver

Ontario: 1 international destination
Guadalajara

Burbank: no international destinations
Long Beach: no international destinations


This is a statement of market demand. Ontario serves 4.3 million people( for heavenssakes) and only has service to Guadalajara? Ugh. Really? John Wayne serves 3 million people in affluent Orange County yet only 3 intl destinations, 2 in Mexico and Vancouver. Seems paltry at best for Southern California.

Here's an update of the major secondary airports in LA and the Bay Area.

Nonstop International Flights:

San Jose-SJC
Nonstop to/from:
Beijing-Capital
Frankfurt
Guadalajara
London-Heathrow
San Jose del Cabo
Shanghai-Pudong
Tokyo-Narita
Vancouver

Oakland-OAK
Nonstop to/from:
Guadalajara
Leon/ El Bajio
Lisbon
London-Gatwick
Mexico City
Morelia
Oslo-Gardermoen
Stockholm-Arlanda
Terceira( Azores)
Tijuana

Orange County-SNA
Nonstop to/from:
Puerto Vallarta
San Jose del Cabo
Vancouver

Ontario-ONT
Nonstop to/from:
Guadalajara

Burbank-BUR
No nonstop international flights

Long Beach-LGB
No nonstop international flights
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Old 07-05-2016, 11:10 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Is this O'Hare or Long Beach:
https://goo.gl/maps/Mf2Rpp4quzv

Thankfully Long Beach has such nice weather considering there are no jetways and you have to walk up a flight of stairs outside to access the plane like its 1955. Talk about a "major airport" lol.
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Old 07-05-2016, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Northern California
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Sac offers a couple flights a week to some crappy cities in Mexico
I wouldn't consider Mexico City and Guadalajara crappy
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