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View Poll Results: Please choose 2 answers (one for "live" and one from "visit")
Massachusetts to live 101 65.58%
Missouri to live 50 32.47%
Massachusetts to visit 116 75.32%
Missouri to visit 26 16.88%
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Old 02-02-2021, 09:31 AM
 
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BTW, you're both proving the very point sub made. It's not so much about Boston and other cities in the NE being the center of the universe, but rather the toxic aura of pretentiousness folks like yourself tend to have about the city/region's advantages and the insistent need to try hard at proving something when people suggest you're not as good as you think.
The thing is there are massive advantages. There is a reason Boston is twice as wealthy as other “world cities” like Paris. Boston has 6 top 100 Universities in the world (well Boston, Cambridge and Medford). Saying such isn’t gloating it’s just true.

Even Chicago’s metro is like 35% wealthier than Paris. With nearly the same economy with 3 million fewer people.

Now does being the center of the Biotech industry and having the best Unis in the world make being a sanitation worker living in Dorchester better than being a Sanitation worker living in Springfield, MO? Not really.
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Old 02-02-2021, 09:50 AM
 
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...Boston has 6 top 100 Universities in the world (well Boston, Cambridge and Medford)...
Maybe you mean the *US* top 100?

Below is a definitive list of the top 100 universities in the world. I only see 2 in Boston (hell, I'll even be generous and include Brown University in Providence, since it's a part of Boston's CSA), but at least 4 in London.

https://www.topuniversities.com/stud...0-universities
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Old 02-02-2021, 09:52 AM
 
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Maybe you mean the *US* top 100?

Below is a definitive list of the top 100 universities in the world. I only see 2 in Boston (hell, I'll even be generous and include Brown University in Providence, since it's a part of Boston's CSA), but at least 4 in London.

https://www.topuniversities.com/stud...0-universities
The top 2 here are within 2 miles of Downtown Bosston but okay.. https://www.usnews.com/education/bes...ities/rankings

topuniveristies.com is the end all be all...

Some of these London schools have paltry endowments LSE has a 155M euro endowment which is like a small liberal arts school here. Kings College London 250M euros. That must be part of explaining why I've never heard of these schools like Cambridge or Oxford

They have like 100th (or less)of MIT or Harvard in terms of endowment. Not every "Capital of the Universe" of them lol
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Old 02-02-2021, 10:04 AM
 
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Maybe you mean the *US* top 100?

Below is a definitive list of the top 100 universities in the world. I only see 2 in Boston (hell, I'll even be generous and include Brown University in Providence, since it's a part of Boston's CSA), but at least 4 in London.

https://www.topuniversities.com/stud...0-universities
Global 200. BC, BU, Northeastern, Tufts, Harvard, MIT.

Times of Education and US News and Report.

https://cwur.org/2017.php

This report gives Boston 4 in the top 100. London has 3. And none on the top 20 while Boston has two of the top 5.

Brandies is in the top 250 as well.

Edit: Googled BC but that was of British Columbia not Boston College so 4. 5 in the top 250, which is a ton.
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Old 02-02-2021, 10:04 AM
 
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BTW, London ranks #3 for overall student life, which includes (but is not limited to) the following criteria:

*Affordability (amazing how much of a difference cheap, if not free, college, can make in a studen't s college experience. Maybe one day the US will get a clue).
*University rankings
*Student satisfaction
*Employer activity
*Desirability
*Student mix

Boston ranks #8.

https://www.topuniversities.com/city-rankings/2017
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Old 02-02-2021, 10:12 AM
 
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Some of these London schools have paltry endowments LSE has a 155M euro endowment which is like a small liberal arts school here. Kings College London 250M euros. That must be part of explaining why I've never heard of these schools like Cambridge or Oxford

They have like 100th (or less)of MIT or Harvard in terms of endowment. Not every "Capital of the Universe" of them lol
There's no need for a ton of endowments when the government actually see higher education as an investment towards strengthening their country's talent pool and thus sufficiently funds it with taxpayer dollars (which England does per-capita).

But I'm not sure what that has to do with Boston being the "Education Capital of the Universe."
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Old 02-02-2021, 10:15 AM
 
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BTW, London ranks #3 for overall student life, which includes (but is not limited to) the following criteria:

*Affordability (amazing how much of a difference cheap, if not free, college, can make in a studen't s college experience. Maybe one day the US will get a clue).
*University rankings
*Student satisfaction
*Employer activity
*Desirability
*Student mix

Boston ranks #8.

https://www.topuniversities.com/city-rankings/2017
Jesus crust. When people say “NYC is the Capital of the World” nobody says well actually blah blah blah.

The fact you’re splitting hairs between BU and University College And MIT And Kings College kind of proves our point.
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You have to go to England to find a comparably presigious city.
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Old 02-02-2021, 10:18 AM
 
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...When people say “NYC is the Capital of the World..."
I never heard anyone say that on this forum.

But again, that has nothing to do with the claim about Boston being the "Education Capital of the Universe."
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Old 02-02-2021, 10:19 AM
 
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I never heard anyone say that on this forum.

But again, that has nothing to do with the claim about Boston being the "Education Capital of the Universe."
Metro Boston has a strong argument for having the best collection of Universities in the world. It doesn’t mean everyone else is a dumb dumb.

Is that really that hard to understand?

The University of London (which includes, Imperial College, Kings College, University College) has produced 1 PM, Harvard, 14 Presidents.
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Old 02-02-2021, 10:19 AM
 
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There's no need for a ton of endowments when the government actually see higher education as an investment towards strengthening their country's talent pool and thus sufficiently funds it with taxpayer dollars (which England does per-capita).

But I'm not sure what that has to do with Boston being the "Education Capital of the Universe."
Obviously, the Boston institutions are more far-reaching in terms of research policy, development, and overall influence in its region and globally as a result of the astronomical endowments. They're afforded much more range and can make much more an impact in terms of employment and other economic drives which all stem from the realm of Education. That's very easy to understand.

One could also look at it as an indicator of institutional support from those all over the world or from businesses and wealthy folks in general.
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