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If we're talking about cultural output, things get interesting. Kensington could very well be the most famous neighborhood in Philly right now.
There's a subset of people in the online sphere that glorify and peddle a narrative of urban dystopia. It's unfortunately true that cities like Baltimore and Philadelphia are prime targets for that narrative-peddling. Essentially, some opportunist YouTubers and TikTokers focused on the city's most destitute blocks filled with most human suffering they could muster up into an engaging viral video, and voila--urban dystopia porn was born.
Now, certainly some of those viewers may be warped into thinking the entire city of Philadelphia is comprised of those handful of awful blocks in Kensington, but rational people (which I still have faith comprise the majority of human beings on this planet) understand that vast nuances of a large city, and the YouTube/TikTok opportunists and exploiters are just that.
Although I think it's more than fair to say that Philadelphia has still remarkably managed to hold most of its proverbial s**t together despite a few very rough years for its image. And a newfound, much more positive trajectory seems to cautiously be re-emerging.
Baltimore has clearly has taken a harder hit to its image for longer since the Freddie Gray incident, but I still have immense faith that it, too, will follow a similar trajectory to Philadelphia given all of its great assets. I think the city needs a concerted effort to rebrand itself in the BaltWash region, for starters, which given that informative Baltimore Banner article posted earlier, would go a long way in softening a hardened reputation.
Baltimore has a much nicer waterfront. Both have a lot of ugly row houses.
Hard disagree. Very few cities compare to the architectural richness of either Baltimore or Philadelphia. But fair point about Baltimore's superior waterfront.
West Philly: Reservoir Hill and many other places tbh. Most of the streetcars have been removed but so much of Baltimore is like West Philly.
I'm not seeing the Reservoir Hill/West Philly similarities. Reservoir Hill has a housing stock that looks like what you might see in Columbia Heights or Adams-Morgan in DC. Just take a look at the cover photo from the Wiki page.
well the top search result on google says they're the first and third most popular DJs in the world in terms of money and streaming so there's that lol..
I have no idea. I just notice that posters from smaller cities or cities with lesser known contributions have to constantly publicize the one or two things they can take credit for. This is how you get comments like "We gave the world Taraji P. Henson. You're welcome."
Searching the CvC forum, there were nearly as many hits for "Gogo" as there were for "Motown" despite the latter being far more famous and influential. I'll let you ponder why that might be the case.
Point taken. Influence was an interesting word choice. Like what is influence? Most American's have never heard of the city of Lahore even though it's more populated than Los Angeles. But the Philly Cheesesteak is having it's moment there right now in Pakistan: The Amazing Story of How Philly Cheesesteaks Became Huge in Lahore, Pakistan Influence is a very subjective thing
I always found the parallels between that area and Philadelphia's Navy Yard interesting due to both being anchored by clothing companies, Under Amour and Urban Outfitters. Though, Philadelphia's has remained almost entirely a business park with Rite Aid recently moving their corporate HQ to it.
no, no I don't live in a world were Baltimore is more influential in any way shape or form lol. From music, to sports, to food, to art, to science, to business, etc. Baltimore isn't pushing the needle in any direction. I'm sorry lol. I did see Loch Seafood is expanding, which I will probably give a try. People in Philly do love putting Old Bay on things too.
Philly's T-Minus 3 years from having another world's fair-type event that involves big infrastructure projects like capping I-95. Redoing some of the major parks like FDR and the Ben Franklin Parkway. Opening Franklin Square subway station. Building out the Schuylkill Yards, Navy Yard, and Bellweather districts. Hosting events like the FIFA World Cup and MLB Homerun Derby/All-Star game at the same time.
That's good for Philly. I think Philly will do well hosting both events. It will also put the city on the World stage in a positive light.
I brought that up in response to “Philly being able to turn its population loss around”. It was largely if not entirely due to the immigrants that chose to settle in the city as opposed to the suburbs. I know Baltimore MSA is diverse and prosperous even; Baltimore metro area is fine..it’s the city that’s hurting.
As far as the Hispanic population; they have the lowest Hispanic population in the Notheast; even the smaller towns have larger Hispanic populations. Most have a Hispanic rate over 10%.
This is just one of the signs that Baltimore is not a Northeastern city. That simple fact would explain your perplexity.
no, no I don't live in a world were Baltimore is more influential in any way shape or form lol. From music, to sports, to food, to art, to science, to business, etc. Baltimore isn't pushing the needle in any direction. I'm sorry lol. I did see Loch Seafood is expanding, which I will probably give a try. People in Philly do love putting Old Bay on things too.
Philly's T-Minus 3 years from having another world's fair-type event that involves big infrastructure projects like capping I-95. Redoing some of the major parks like FDR and the Ben Franklin Parkway. Opening Franklin Square subway station. Building out the Schuylkill Yards, Navy Yard, and Bellweather districts. Hosting events like the FIFA World Cup and MLB Homerun Derby/All-Star game at the same time.
A few points I'd like to contest.
Sports - Baltimore obviously lacks NBA, NHL & MLS so auto win for Philly. Yes, the Eagles just one the Superbowl but let's not act like Lamar & Odell aren't going to be the most followed dynamic next season. Regarding Baseball... ugh how many ballparks are literally modeled off of Camden Yards again? (*stares at Citizens Bank*).
Art - is definitely subjective so I don't know how you rank that.
Science - Did we forget Johns Hopkins exist or something? Hopkins has been the #1 institution for R&D for 43 yeas straight. Cherry on top... The James Webb, Hubble & upcoming Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescopes are run out of the Space Telescope Science Institute, in Baltimore. Go figure.
Business - again subjective depending on industry. Banking or F500? not even on the radar. Shipping/logistics? Baltimore is the gold standard on the East Coast.
Crab cakes & Old Bay are definitely more regional than Philly's Cheesesteaks and Philly blows Baltimore's doors off when it comes to music, TV/movie, exportation... No one is contesting Philly is the bigger, more cosmopolitan & bustling city... but don't let homerism cloud realism.
At parity, Baltimore competes pretty much equally with Philly. Philly usually wins out due to raw scale.
This is just one of the signs that Baltimore is not a Northeastern city. That simple fact would explain your perplexity.
Agree. I didn't want to mention this as to not take this down another North/South derailment on a thread involving Baltimore/DC, but I think it shows that the NE Latino migration doesn't make it as far south as Baltimore. It's just outside of the sphere of NE Latino migration, which shows that its location is really outside of the Northeast Sphere.
Agree. I didn't want to mention this as to not take this down another North/South derailment on a thread involving Baltimore/DC, but I think it shows that the NE Latino migration doesn't make it as far south as Baltimore. It's just outside of the sphere of NE Latino migration, which shows that its location is really outside of the Northeast Sphere.
Agreed, but thus isn't a north/south, or a DC thread.
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