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View Poll Results: Miami and Seattle are getting big and tall... which city will be grander?
Miami 29 40.85%
Seattle 32 45.07%
other US city (not called LA, Chicago, or NYC) 10 14.08%
Voters: 71. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-24-2022, 12:33 PM
 
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Seattle has multiples of Miami's walking commute share AND transit commute share, both metro and core municipality. It's on a different level that way.

In terms of pedestrian volumes, I'd put greater Downtown Seattle and the U District against Downtown Miami and Miami Beach any day. Peak spots like the Pike Place Market especially.
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Old 06-24-2022, 12:53 PM
 
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Seattle has multiples of Miami's walking commute share AND transit commute share, both metro and core municipality. It's on a different level that way.

In terms of pedestrian volumes, I'd put greater Downtown Seattle and the U District against Downtown Miami and Miami Beach any day. Peak spots like the Pike Place Market especially.
Ok then if I post videos of a bunch of Miami and Miami Beach hotspots on days/nights without an event going on will you do the same for the Seattle area and then we will see how they compare in pedestrian volumes and vibrancy?
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Old 06-24-2022, 12:58 PM
 
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[quote=SaintX;63675259]Miami is already grander than Seattle so I’d go with that. Miami also has a lot more space to expand its skyline. Neither are catching Toronto any time soon though.[/QUOT


Much of Miami, Dade and Broward are subject to FAA height limits of ~500-600' or below,
and a number of neighborhoods are considerably lower still, down near 250~300'.
Outside of NYC, the city doing the most tax-revenue making residential planning is Seattle,
which will pay for more affordable housing and transit infrastructure in the future.
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Old 06-24-2022, 01:06 PM
 
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Seattle has multiples of Miami's walking commute share AND transit commute share, both metro and core municipality. It's on a different level that way.

In terms of pedestrian volumes, I'd put greater Downtown Seattle and the U District against Downtown Miami and Miami Beach any day. Peak spots like the Pike Place Market especially.
What? Seattle has nothing on Miami when it comes to the amount of pedestrians walking around.

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Old 06-24-2022, 01:56 PM
 
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Here's one of the Pike Place Market, covering a few city blocks. Significant chunks are packed enough that you can only shuffle through.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipbOjqcM6jE

Elliott Bay waterfront:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vidByM_zBFg&t=20s

I'm heading out, but by the weekend I can see if there's something covering pre-COVID office crowds (Miami has no comparison), Capitol Hill, and/or the U District.

As for walking commute shares, look to the Census Dept. Miami has some busy areas but its averages are poor.
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Old 06-24-2022, 02:14 PM
 
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If you're talking about people actually significantly congregating and walking around in high-density areas then Miami and Miami Beach alone probably have more "urbanity" than the entire Seattle metro area combined. Then when you start adding in all the other cities around South Florida the two areas quickly become uncomparable.
I don't mean tourist traps. I mean neighborhoods where locals live. Seattle has urban villages that feel functionally much more urban than the vast majority of Miami outside of tourist traps that draw people from across the country and world.

A larger share of people take public transit or walk/bike to work in Seattle than Miami. It's functionally more urban and there is more mixed development scattered across the city.

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Old 06-24-2022, 02:17 PM
 
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What? Seattle has nothing on Miami when it comes to the amount of pedestrians walking around.
It most certainly does.
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Old 06-24-2022, 02:25 PM
 
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It most certainly does.
If we’re comparing only Downtown Miami to Downtown Seattle, sure.
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Old 06-24-2022, 02:36 PM
 
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If we’re comparing only Downtown Miami to Downtown Seattle, sure.
Well, yeah. That's what I thought was being discussed here.

Although both really do quite poorly outside of their downtowns, barring Miami Beach. For instance, I was surprised at how much of a snoozefest Downtown Fort Lauderdale is during my last visit there. Looks great from a distance, but at street level, there didn't seem to be much of anything going on there.
This was during a weekend, and with the Thunderbirds in town as well.
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Old 06-24-2022, 02:40 PM
 
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What? Seattle has nothing on Miami when it comes to the amount of pedestrians walking around…
That's just blatantly false.
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