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Dallas doesn't have an outpost like Uptown Houston and certainlydoesn't have a TMC or Galveston.
There are similar outposts like Greenspoint, or Greenway Plaza.
Houston doesn't have a FW though. But Houston is like a Dallas plus Fort Worth plus Plano plus Irving plus ......
I get that you wouldn't live there if you aren't a college student, but in general west campus is more urban in terms of buildout, streetscape, and vibrancy.
Much more suburban is a huge stretch. Have you ever stepped foot in State Thomas? And do you really think the last example you used for Uptown (West Village) is an example of suburban layout?
Much more suburban is a huge stretch. Have you ever stepped foot in State Thomas? And do you really think the last example you used for Uptown (West Village) is an example of suburban layout?
Yep, State-Thomas is a historic district. Much of what’s built there can only really be low rise dense development. But additional development is planned on McKinney fronting State-Thomas, where highrises are allowed. The Whole Foods on McKinney is directly behind State-Thomas.
The building labeled “Endeavor” (that’s circled) is planned to start soon. McKinney and Boll — its official name. The orange dot is Whole Foods.
Much more suburban is a huge stretch. Have you ever stepped foot in State Thomas? And do you really think the last example you used for Uptown (West Village) is an example of suburban layout?
West Campus has a census tract with > 70k ppsm. The most dense in Uptown is about 30k, which is the baseline in West Campus. I don't think it is close.
West Campus has a census tract with > 70k ppsm. The most dense in Uptown is about 30k, which is the baseline in West Campus. I don't think it is close.
West Campus has a census tract with > 70k ppsm. The most dense in Uptown is about 30k, which is the baseline in West Campus. I don't think it is close.
Having a huge college campus right there is definitely going affect the density.
............+1 Again!!!!...........I'm pleasantly confused Redlionjr.....You don't have to answer this but have you always viewed things like this for Dallas or is it because you've made a couple of recent trips to Dallas and took it in for what it is?...(Unbiasedly)......or is it something else?
I can honestly say I haven't always viewed things like this for Dallas but I do think Dallas has made more progressive strides in it's core when it comes to urban infrastructure than Houston is. I can remember going to Uptown over 12 years ago and it not even being close to what it is now. But I try to be as objective as possible. Its some things I like about Dallas over Houston and it's some things I like about Houston over Dallas.
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Remind me again of why we are comparing Uptown Dallas to MIDtown Houston...instead of UPTOWN Houston??
Shouldn't Midtown be compared to Deep Ellum or the like?
Outside of both downtown's Midtown is probably the most urban neighborhood in the core of Houston so it's comparable in that sense. You definitely don't want to compare Uptown Houston to Uptown Dallas. Uptown Houston is more suburban in layout than anything.
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Originally Posted by whereiend
I get that you wouldn't live there if you aren't a college student, but in general west campus is more urban in terms of buildout, streetscape, and vibrancy.
I've walked Guadalupe St and the remainder of West Campus plenty of times before and I wouldn't say Uptown Dallas HAS A MUCH MORE SUBURBAN looking layout. I actually still prefer Uptown Dallas to West Campus. Btw, I don't think the first link and last link would best describe a suburban layout. I mean, West Campus has it's fair share of businesses with big suburban parking lots and intersections that aren't very pedestrian friendly. With that said OUTSIDE of a downtown West Campus and Uptown Dallas are probably the most urban areas. I'll say West Campus is more vibrant (the school helps). Uptown Dallas imo with the trolley and architecture gives me a more of a "traditional" urban experience in that sense. But West Campus has more of the authentic indie stores that Uptown Dallas doesn't. So hey if one prefers West Campus urbanity to Uptown more power to them. I think they're close enough to each other to fall into a category A or B.
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what about the Strand?????
......+1 Again!!!!...........I'm pleasantly confused Redlionjr
.....You don't have to answer this but have you always viewed things like this for Dallas or is it because you've made a couple of recent trips to Dallas and took it in for what it is?...(Unbiasedly)......or is it something else?
