Which has the more urban streetscape: Houston or Dallas? (Atlanta, live, best)

[R1070]

Originally Posted by atadytic19

Patently false : 304 Gray St
https://maps.app.goo.gl/pvQyk23uCBxG4BhQ6

2533 Times Blvd
https://maps.app.goo.gl/fJGEgq7u88UfNvS96

That's just "look at me, I'm Dallas and I have a big head " Talk.

There's several areas all over Dallas and it's burbs that look like that Gray Street scene (which is not very big).

Times Blvd looks like what you'd find at across multiple areas in Dallas:
Snyder Plaza: https://goo.gl/maps/Mu1uPGQadXJKrpg56
Preston Center: https://goo.gl/maps/WWcyHy64GotJniT98
Lakewood: https://goo.gl/maps/Yt63BdGrSNYQV7987
Inwood Village: https://goo.gl/maps/gj7nfD8BadQcGNXp6

[atadytic19]

Originally Posted by R1070

Thank you I noticed the convenience of that as well. Also the the view of a parking lot on the Cedar Springs Strip rather than the heart of it at CS and Throckmorton... https://goo.gl/maps/qUm74ZWdNMkyFijp6

I really don't see anything special about any of those links. That could be anywhere.

[SanJac]

Originally Posted by R1070

There's several areas all over Dallas and it's burbs that look like that Gray Street scene (which is not very big).

Times Blvd looks like what you'd find at across multiple areas in Dallas:
Snyder Plaza: https://goo.gl/maps/Mu1uPGQadXJKrpg56
Preston Center: https://goo.gl/maps/WWcyHy64GotJniT98
Lakewood: https://goo.gl/maps/Yt63BdGrSNYQV7987
Inwood Village: https://goo.gl/maps/gj7nfD8BadQcGNXp6

Vintage Park?
https://maps.app.goo.gl/BjXZ4GVoeEPpGYoY6?g_st=ic

You are in Dallas. You like it there. Be happy.

[whereiend]

Lmao at this thread of people going back and forth posting images of strip malls.

[dallasboi]

Originally Posted by atadytic19

I really don't see anything special about any of those links. That could be anywhere.

...I think that was his point about the links you posted first.....He just followed up with examples of similar areas in Dallas.

[Redlionjr]

Originally Posted by R1070

And you could be right. I've never lived in Houston and admittedly have only been there for short visits, so there may be areas that I'm just not aware of. Here's where I was coming from in my comment.

I do not feel these Houston areas are as distinctive or provide as urban of a streetscape as these following Central Dallas areas:

- Heights vs Bishop Arts
- Montrose vs Strip on Cedar Springs in Oak Lawn
- Midtown vs Uptown Dallas
- EaDo vs Deep Ellum/Expo Park

In addition, I feel like Lowest Greenville, Knox District, Jefferson Blvd, Henderson Avenue and Victory Park all offer distinct urban streetscapes compared to what is offered in Houston's core neighborhoods. If I'm mistaken, I welcome being proven ill-informed, but I haven't seen anything to do that yet. I like Houston and enjoy my visits there, I just don't feel like it beats Dallas in these specific areas. There's plenty of other areas Houston does excel in though!

Ok I wanna make sure I'm being objective and fair in my assessment as possible of both cities. When I say Houston has more distinct neighborhoods in their core, I'm talking specifically distinct in characteristics not definitely from a urban streetscape perspective.

Dallas neighborhoods such as Lower Greenville/ Uptown Dallas/ Deep Ellum/ Cedar Springs(Oak Lawn)/ Bishop Arts District/ North Oak Cliff definitely have their own distinct characteristics from one another.

Now Imo, areas like Knox Henderson feel like other more commercialized areas of the metroplex just more pedestrian friendly than the general suburban streetscapes in the area that offer the same kind of businesses. Jefferson Blvd imo is built more like a small town main street than a true urban streetscape. Victory Park also feels like an extension of Uptown. Has that posh clean sterile commercialized feel to it.

Now I think there's a difference between distinctive and urban streetscapes. Dallas IMO DOES have more urban streetscapes than Houston. Because Dallas has more pedestrian friendly neighborhoods in their core which promote more of an urban experience.

Houston lacks the pedestrian friendly infrastructure to have a true urban experience but than they have distinct neighborhoods despite that lack of infrastructure. Which is why I think Houston has more potential because of the bones it has yet Houston doesn't use it's potential to it's advantage. Which is why I'll still say Dallas has more of a urban streetscape than Houston cause of those walkable areas.

But Houston's core does consist of distinct neighborhoods such as:
- The Heights
- Third Ward
- EaDo
- Montrose
- East End
- Museum District
- 3rd Ward
- Freedman's Town
- West University
- Texas Medical Center
- River Oaks
- Bellaire
- Arts District/1st Ward
- 5th Ward
- Greenway Upper Kirby

I think these areas are distinctive enough from one another. They just lack the pedestrian friendly infrastructure. Welcome to Houston *shrugs* Potential to do better but chooses to half ass it anyway.

[dallasboi]

Originally Posted by Redlionjr

Ok I wanna make sure I'm being objective and fair in my assessment as possible of both cities. When I say Houston has more distinct neighborhoods in their core, I'm talking specifically distinct in characteristics not definitely from a urban streetscape perspective.

Dallas neighborhoods such as Lower Greenville/ Uptown Dallas/ Deep Ellum/ Cedar Springs(Oak Lawn)/ Bishop Arts District/ North Oak Cliff definitely have their own distinct characteristics from one another.

Now Imo, areas like Knox Henderson feel like other more commercialized areas of the metroplex just more pedestrian friendly than the general suburban streetscapes in the area that offer the same kind of businesses. Jefferson Blvd imo is built more like a small town main street than a true urban streetscape. Victory Park also feels like an extension of Uptown. Has that posh clean sterile commercialized feel to it.

Now I think there's a difference between distinctive and urban streetscapes. Dallas IMO DOES have more urban streetscapes than Houston. Because Dallas has more pedestrian friendly neighborhoods in their core which promote more of an urban experience.

Houston lacks the pedestrian friendly infrastructure to have a true urban experience but than they have distinct neighborhoods despite that lack of infrastructure. Which is why I think Houston has more potential because of the bones it has yet Houston doesn't use it's potential to it's advantage. Which is why I'll still say Dallas has more of a urban streetscape than Houston cause of those walkable areas.

But Houston's core does consist of distinct neighborhoods such as:
- The Heights
- Third Ward
- EaDo
- Montrose
- East End
- Museum District
- 3rd Ward
- Freedman's Town
- West University
- Texas Medical Center
- River Oaks
- Bellaire
- Arts District/1st Ward
- 5th Ward
- Greenway Upper Kirby

I think these areas are distinctive enough from one another. They just lack the pedestrian friendly infrastructure. Welcome to Houston *shrugs* Potential to do better but chooses to half ass it anyway.

VERY fair and unbiased post.....+1

[Dallaz]

Originally Posted by whereiend

Lmao at this thread of people going back and forth posting images of strip malls.

I posted the first video in another thread in the Texas Forum. It’s a drive through Central Dallas.

It shows the Park Cities (mostly single family residential), Turtle Creek, Uptown, close to Victory Park, and ending in Downtown.

Starts - Preston Center area (Dallas)

0:50 - Park Cities (University Park - Highland Park)

10:08 - entering into the Dallas city limits from the Park Cities (Turtle Creek Blvd - Turtle Creek neighborhood)

14:25 - entering Uptown (Katy Trail bridge above)

19:00 - Victory Park high-rises in the distance

20:24 - urban Tom Thumb to the left

21:00 - Downtown Dallas


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ESz-oR...ature=youtu.be

Deep Ellum (2nd video is a car tour through the majority of Deep Ellum)


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rG4Cqv...ature=youtu.be


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5RL9lB...ature=youtu.be

Lower Greenville


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LKcnLq...ature=youtu.be

Bishop Arts District in North Oak Cliff


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek1v-U...ature=youtu.be

[R1070]

Originally Posted by whereiend

Lmao at this thread of people going back and forth posting images of strip malls.

lol... right? I was posting links of strip centers in Dallas that look like what was said to be an urban streetscape in Houston. Those types of mid-century developments are all over Dallas, but it doesn't make them an urban streetscape which is the topic of discussion.

[R1070]

Originally Posted by atadytic19

I really don't see anything special about any of those links. That could be anywhere.

If you're comparing the gayborhoods of both cities... Oak Lawn is going to be the vibrant scene and urban in design.