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There is no part of SA that l is like the French Quarter.
If anything the King William District in San Antonio may resemble Canal Street through Mid Cities if you squint.
This is King William 508 King William St https://maps.app.goo.gl/wLnA9NQxSAuY7Hoi8
The French Quarter wasn't a slave neighborhood. Whoever told yall that lied. The Treme is where you might be thinking of. It's one of the oldest continuously black neighborhood in the US. African culture gave birth to African American culture in the Treme.
The closest neighborhoods to New Orleans in Texas imo are on Galveston. But even then you gotta be really squinting to narrow those streets. Reminds me of parts of Algiers or Marigny. The Heights in Houston too has a little New Orleans flair. Also, the square small blocks of the lower Museum District combined with the heavily treed yards gives it a Garden District feel (except the houses are far from as grand).
But Deep Ellum being like the French Quarter??? Nah.
For a one day visit SA Downtown may be the most fun with the Riverwalk, but overall to me it is the weakest. Having the most older building doesn't win it enough points because it's just lacking in buildings period. Sticking to just Downtowns I prefer Dallas's mix of old and new. In terms of the core I prefer Houston's mass of buildings and all the quirky surrounding neighborhoods.
Edit: nowhere in the French Quarter looks like that shot from the Riverwalk. They are completely different
I'm not disagreeing with you.....This is what I meant.
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Originally Posted by dallasboi
Look... I said TEXAS VERSION of the French quarters. ..The only thing thats the same is the concept and the action...everything else is custom.....
This is a giant stretch. There is not much in common between the two, other than they are walkable districts with many bars and restaurants.
Did you not read my post. I said they’re not blood related. I said they’re step siblings basically. And I explained why. Nowhere did I post that there alike. Kansas City, Harlem, Memphis, Chicago, Dallas all where rooted heavily in blues and had red light districts. If New Orleans is considered the birth place of blues than all the towns mentioned would be New Orleans babies.
This is my picture from just two weeks ago. I just missed a group of people coming out of that market. This was in the heat of the day... 100 degrees outside...
Thanks for posting this.
It shows something I wanted to point out.
Building height does do a lot for an urban streetscape, even at ground level. Without even looking up, you can see the massive foundations of their tightly packed skyscrapers. It lets you know you're walking around in a massive city.
As the originator of this thread, I'm stepping into the ring and calling an unofficial TKO for Houston.
None of that music talk is relevant to the French Quarter though.
The French Quarter was no freedmen's district, it wasn't the red light district, wasn't the place to hear blues or Jazz. All of that was in Storyville in New Orleans' Treme neighborhood, not the French Quarter.
So not only does the French Quarter not share a built form with Deep Ellum, it does not share a history with it, did not and did not share a function.
The French Quarter is New Orleans downtown, Deep Ellum is downtown adjacent.
Due to segregation/ Jim Crow black entertainment venues were separate from Whites. I can imagine that back in the day when black artists traveled to New York they would perform in Harlem. Similarly, when they visited New Orleans they would play in Storyville, not downtown.
So not only are they not blood related, they are in no way relates. I just don't get French Quarter from Deep Ellum.
Just my personal opinion but Houston has more distinct neighborhoods within it's core than what I've seen in Dallas. Dallas core is just more connected with one another than Houston's core.
And you could be right. I've never lived in Houston and admittedly have only been there for short visits, so there may be areas that I'm just not aware of. Here's where I was coming from in my comment.
I do not feel these Houston areas are as distinctive or provide as urban of a streetscape as these following Central Dallas areas:
- Heights vs Bishop Arts
- Montrose vs Strip on Cedar Springs in Oak Lawn
- Midtown vs Uptown Dallas
- EaDo vs Deep Ellum/Expo Park
In addition, I feel like Lowest Greenville, Knox District, Jefferson Blvd, Henderson Avenue and Victory Park all offer distinct urban streetscapes compared to what is offered in Houston's core neighborhoods. If I'm mistaken, I welcome being proven ill-informed, but I haven't seen anything to do that yet. I like Houston and enjoy my visits there, I just don't feel like it beats Dallas in these specific areas. There's plenty of other areas Houston does excel in though!
None of that music talk is relevant to the French Quarter though.
The French Quarter was no freedmen's district, it wasn't the red light district, wasn't the place to hear blues or Jazz. All of that was in Storyville in New Orleans' Treme neighborhood, not the French Quarter.
So not only does the French Quarter not share a built form with Deep Ellum, it does not share a history with it, did not and did not share a function.
The French Quarter is New Orleans downtown, Deep Ellum is downtown adjacent.
Due to segregation/ Jim Crow black entertainment venues were separate from Whites. I can imagine that back in the day when black artists traveled to New York they would perform in Harlem. Similarly, when they visited New Orleans they would play in Storyville, not downtown.
So not only are they not blood related, they are in no way relates. I just don't get French Quarter from Deep Ellum.
Instead of saying that you don't know much about Houston but nevertheless you think Dallas has better neighborhoods then post links and links to similar areas in Houston will be posted.
You just grouped certain neighborhoods but didn't really
say why you were grouping them and then just state that your choices are better. Show them and say why you think it is better.
You keep saying distinct neighborhoods, but why are they so distinct?
There is no part of SA that l is like the French Quarter.
If anything the King William District in San Antonio may resemble Canal Street through Mid Cities if you squint.
This is King William 508 King William St https://maps.app.goo.gl/wLnA9NQxSAuY7Hoi8
The French Quarter wasn't a slave neighborhood. Whoever told yall that lied. The Treme is where you might be thinking of. It's one of the oldest continuously black neighborhood in the US. African culture gave birth to African American culture in the Treme.
The closest neighborhoods to New Orleans in Texas imo are on Galveston. But even then you gotta be really squinting to narrow those streets. Reminds me of parts of Algiers or Marigny. The Heights in Houston too has a little New Orleans flair. Also, the square small blocks of the lower Museum District combined with the heavily treed yards gives it a Garden District feel (except the houses are far from as grand).
But Deep Ellum being like the French Quarter??? Nah.
For a one day visit SA Downtown may be the most fun with the Riverwalk, but overall to me it is the weakest. Having the most older building doesn't win it enough points because it's just lacking in buildings period. Sticking to just Downtowns I prefer Dallas's mix of old and new. In terms of the core I prefer Houston's mass of buildings and all the quirky surrounding neighborhoods.
Edit: nowhere in the French Quarter looks like that shot from the Riverwalk. They are completely different
For The Heights in Houston W 19th looks too "Small Texas town main street" to me...
I think the same thing. Galveston would have the closest architecture to New Orleans. There are some individual houses in the Heights built in a New Orleans style, but not streets. Atadytic was comparing 19th street to Bishop Arts. 19th street does have that small town feel, complete with a converted movie theater. In fact, The Heights used to have it’s own mayor in the late 1800s.
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Look... I said TEXAS VERSION of the French quarters. ..The only thing thats the same is the concept and the action...everything else is custom.....
