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View Poll Results: Which city has the more urban streetscape?
Houston 58 54.21%
Dallas 49 45.79%
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Old 09-06-2022, 08:00 AM
 
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Lol, I disagree with your correction too.

Downtown Houston
Downtown San Antonio (they have made really nice upgrades the last 10 years)
West Campus
Downtown Galveston/Strand
Downtown Austin
Downtown Fort Worth
Downtown Dallas

All more urban than Uptown do dunno why that statement keeps getting thrown around. Heck even downtown El Paso is more urban than Uptown

 
Old 09-06-2022, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Houston
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dunno why that statement keeps getting thrown around.
Because the Dallas marketing machine is strong and people eat it up!
 
Old 09-06-2022, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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I would actually say this is the most urban part of Midtown tbh
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7520...7i16384!8i8192

The old parking minimums and setback rules does take show up on the next block though with that suburban CVS unfortunately.

I really wish the Caydon development worked out for Midtown. Would have been massive start for that area and inspired a different development for the neighborhood. I would place Uptown Dallas ahead of Midtown Houston as of right now myself but I wouldn't say Uptown is more urban than Downtown Houston, Downtown Dallas, or West Campus in Austin.
 
Old 09-06-2022, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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El Paso has by farrrrrrr the most traditional urban streetscape of all the Texas cities. San Antonio second. I can prove it. Take all of the high rises out of central Dallas and central Houston. How would it look? Add those same high rises to El Paso. How would it look?
 
Old 09-06-2022, 12:01 PM
 
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Take all of the high rises out of central Dallas and central Houston. How would it look? Add those same high rises to El Paso. How would it look?
Odd and out of place.
 
Old 09-06-2022, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati
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Odd and out of place.
This would look odd with mid rises and skyscrapers intertwined??????

https://www.google.com/maps/@31.7671...7i16384!8i8192
 
Old 09-06-2022, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Uptown Dallas is the best neighborhood of its type. As well as the most urban of its type. But as mentioned by Spade and ATA, it’s definitely not the most urban area in Texas nor in DFW specifically. I suppose RL loves that kind of neighborhood so that’s the reason for the claim.
 
Old 09-06-2022, 03:03 PM
 
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This is a tough question. I think Houston feels more urban overall, but I think Dallas feels more urban in its core (though the core is smaller).

I'll take Dallas by a hair here, primarily because of it's somewhat better urban infrastructure (sidewalks, streetscapes, connectivity, etc.). If Houston had better actual urban infrastructure, I'd probably go with it because the two are quite close otherwise imo.
 
Old 09-06-2022, 03:15 PM
 
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El Paso has by farrrrrrr the most traditional urban streetscape of all the Texas cities. San Antonio second. I can prove it.
Pssssh what about the Strand?????

https://dynamic-media-cdn.tripadviso...200&h=1200&s=1

https://www.weekendnotes.com/im/001/...ston-stra1.JPG

https://www.freefunguides.com/wp-con...ston-texas.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...i4H9A&usqp=CAU

https://enchantingtexas.com/wp-conte...er-720x540.jpg

https://www.visitgalveston.com/image...9529774e62.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3b/49...8b3397c4b8.jpg

Dallas posters compare Deep Ellum to New Orleans, but Galveston is the only place remotely close.
 
Old 09-06-2022, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Dallas,Texas
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This is a tough question. I think Houston feels more urban overall, but I think Dallas feels more urban in its core (though the core is smaller).

I'll take Dallas by a hair here, primarily because of it's somewhat better urban infrastructure (sidewalks, streetscapes, connectivity, etc.). If Houston had better actual urban infrastructure, I'd probably go with it because the two are quite close otherwise imo.
I literally was gonna write a post saying what you’re saying now. Uptown isn’t the most urban in the traditional sense like Downtown Dallas or Downtown Houston but it has consistent new urbanist developments. Downtown Dallas and Downtown Houston are both dominated by post modern skyscrapers that aren’t very pedestrian friendly on the ground level. That can create dead spaces in areas (even without breaks in development) due to no street level activity. Both have started to add new developments and have renovated the street level of older buildings to engage the pedestrian realm within their downtowns. It’s just that Uptown is simply consistent with street trees, wide sidewalks, sidewalk patios, ground floor retail, etc. It is also a reminder that big skyscrapers aren’t needed to create a cohesive urban experience. The two way conversion of McKinney and Cole Aves from Uptown to the Knox area will help to encourage additional pedestrian activity.

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