[BobNJ1960]

Originally Posted by Lalalally

Both of them leave something to be desired, but I will be voting for Bob. I’m utterly exhausted for our State after 8 long years of the Malloy administration, and fear Lamont would be a continuation of the constipation.

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Bob's ad hit it-must clean up Malloy's mess.

[Mike 75]

Originally Posted by MrGompers

Rhode Island already tried something similar, and the courts stuck it down. Rowland also did something similar and actually laid off state employees (against the contract) and that was also struck down by the courts years later. Most of those employees effected were made whole and in the end the state didn't save any money. (Most likely lost money)

You have a link to the courts "striking it down?" Cause all I could find was that the the unions and the state settled their lawsuit re: pension reforms.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/03/u...-overhaul.html
R.I. Supreme Court upholds public-employee pension settlement - News - providencejournal.com - Providence, RI
The Rowland case is a bit of an outlier, as he specifically targeted union employees for layoffs and spared the non-union ones. Which was an absolutely stupid thing to do, but hey, ol Johnny was never the sharpest knife in the drawer.

[WouldLoveTo]

Cracking up at mail that's being delivered today, I'm guessing from Lamont:

The Apprentice with special guest Bob Setfanowski. This episode: How to run Connecticut into the ground.

Really wish they'd focus more on what they plan to do rather than bashing their opponents.

[JayCT]

Here is some great information on the two questions being asked on the November ballot. We talked about placing a lockbox on the Transportation Fund but have mentioned little about the proposal to limit the state's ability to sell off or trade state land without public hearings or a two-thirds vote in the legislature.

I support both of these measures. I have talked at length about why it is important to place a lockbox on the Transportation Fund any why I feel the argument of the question not being strong enough is convoluted. The proposal to limit the state;s ability to sell or trade state land makes a lot of sense after the recent boondoggle that occurred in Hadaam. The state was ready to trade several acres of prime Connecticut Riverfront property for a swath of undevelopable land elsewhere in the area. The waterfront property had a much higher value and the locals were furious that the state even considered the trade. Jay

You'll Be Asked To Vote On These Two Questions On Election Day. Here's What You Need To Know. - Hartford Courant

[SAE72]

Remember who has had complete control of the Government for the past 8 years when you vote in November. And remember who has had control of the Legislature for what seems like forever.






Connecticut has seen some of the sharpest declines in the size of its middle class over the past decade-and-a-half, according to new research.
A study by the Pew Research Center shows the middle class is shrinking in 203 out of 229 metropolitan areas across the country.
Middle class households were defined as earning between two-thirds and double the median income.
Metropolitan areas in Connecticut saw among the steepest declines, with more growth in the upper class than the lower class. A New York Times report focused on 100 areas with the steepest declines — areas with more than a 4 percent decline in the size of the middle class. The Norwich-New London metropolitan area’s decline was nearly twice that.

[JayCT]

Originally Posted by SAE72

Remember who has had complete control of the Government for the past 8 years when you vote in November. And remember who has had control of the Legislature for what seems like forever.






Connecticut has seen some of the sharpest declines in the size of its middle class over the past decade-and-a-half, according to new research.
A study by the Pew Research Center shows the middle class is shrinking in 203 out of 229 metropolitan areas across the country.
Middle class households were defined as earning between two-thirds and double the median income.
Metropolitan areas in Connecticut saw among the steepest declines, with more growth in the upper class than the lower class. A New York Times report focused on 100 areas with the steepest declines — areas with more than a 4 percent decline in the size of the middle class. The Norwich-New London metropolitan area’s decline was nearly twice that.

The shrinking middle class is a national problem so it is understandable that is affects Connecticut too. In my mind it began under the Bush/Chenny administration and continues rapidly under our current President. I believe the decline in the Norwich-New London area has to do with the reduction in three of its largest employers: Pfizer, Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun. That may change somewhat with the rapid expansion of Electric Boat in the area. We will see. Jay

[SAE72]

Originally Posted by JayCT

The shrinking middle class is a national problem so it is understandable that is affects Connecticut too. In my mind it began under the Bush/Chenny administration and continues rapidly under our current President. I believe the decline in the Norwich-New London area has to do with the reduction in three of its largest employers: Pfizer, Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun. That may change somewhat with the rapid expansion of Electric Boat in the area. We will see. Jay

The loss of purchasing power for the middle class started to decline in the mid 1970's. Bush has nothing to do with it. Sure it is a national problem, but along with the wealth gap, CT is up with the leaders of the pack. I have supplied numerous sources that show the middle class leaving, and those left will continue to struggle.


What on Earth does Bush have to do with the Casinos? And if you think the decline " continues rapidly under our current President "..how do you explain the increase in defense spending he has asked for? Isn't that where Electric Boat is getting the money ?


You can try and blame others all you want. The Democrats have been representing CT in Congress , and have had complete control in CT for 8 years. Yet CT has more economic problems like a shrinking middle class and a widening wealth gap than many other areas . More debt that we can pay for and facing another go round of increased taxes that add to our woes. If that isn't failure I don't know what is.

[East of the River]

Originally Posted by SAE72

Remember who has had complete control of the Government for the past 8 years when you vote in November. And remember who has had control of the Legislature for what seems like forever.






Connecticut has seen some of the sharpest declines in the size of its middle class over the past decade-and-a-half, according to new research.
A study by the Pew Research Center shows the middle class is shrinking in 203 out of 229 metropolitan areas across the country.
Middle class households were defined as earning between two-thirds and double the median income.
Metropolitan areas in Connecticut saw among the steepest declines, with more growth in the upper class than the lower class. A New York Times report focused on 100 areas with the steepest declines — areas with more than a 4 percent decline in the size of the middle class. The Norwich-New London metropolitan area’s decline was nearly twice that.

Many of the problems we are dealing with now came from GOP governors. Danny, isn't a great governor but at least he was honest about the states financial issues and tried to fix them.

[East of the River]

Originally Posted by BobNJ1960

Bob's ad hit it-must clean up Malloy's mess.

Except Bob doesn't really have a plan. He calls for cutting taxes and eliminating waste (like everyone else) but doesn't identify where he will cut or how he will pay for tax cuts. At this point the only guy with any kind of actual plan is OZ, and I don't really love his plan either.

I have a distinct feeling that voting for Bob will result in a big disappointment, as he knows he can't actually cut any of these taxes (well maybe the business tax a little) and still pay the past due bills.

[SAE72]

Originally Posted by East of the River

Many of the problems we are dealing with now came from GOP governors. Danny, isn't a great governor but at least he was honest about the states financial issues and tried to fix them.

How many years of the past 20 years have the Democrats held the Legislature ? 20
How many years have Republicans had the Governor , and Legislature ? Zero.
For the Democrats it has been the last 7 years.


So the one constant is that the Democrats have controlled the Legislature for 20 consecutive years, and three of the 5 years before that controlled one part . And you want to cast blame on GOP Governors?


Every incoming administration has problems from the previous administration. But the party in power has most of the time been Democrats. So you are saying none of the problems over the past 7 years were because of Democrats ? None of the problems the past 7 years came about from the previous 13 years of Democratic monopoly in the Legislature? Just the GOP Governors? And if so, given all that time, and all the extra tax increases , couldn't make things better, and in fact one could argue made it worse?


Is that why we should vote for a Democratic Governor and Legislature ?