[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by JayCT

Well is it not true? Isn’t that the Republican MO? Accuse your opponents of doing what you are doing. Trump is a master at this. Caught many times. Now all the Republican leaders do it too. Pretty sad IMHO. Jay

You literally have a prominent Democrat making baseless election stealing accusations, yet can’t help but bring up Republicans?

[BobNJ1960]

Originally Posted by CTartist

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I think we see the extremes in both parties a lot on the news and in social media. They are probably a much smaller % of the electorate than we think. I think most Republicans and Democrats are probably NOT the extreme. It's just that the national political parties and the news media make tons of money showing the extremes.

It is a shame that division is so profitable.
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Sad, but very true points. My best friend spent decades in radio news, and his wife is still doing that. My BA alma mater, Fordham had many in upper management in the major NY news stations year after year, and I attended with friends' innumerable new conferences.

It saddens me to have to agree with your media assertion, and 30-40 years ago the media was responsible. Not now. The lines that should remain firm between media and whom they cover were eliminated by the media. With that elimination, credibility was gone..forever.

[SteveM85]

Originally Posted by CTartist

I think we see the extremes in both parties a lot on the news and in social media. They are probably a much smaller % of the electorate than we think. I think most Republicans and Democrats are probably NOT the extreme.

but a larger % than you'd think. They're trending. It's not just the media anymore, we're past that. Younger millenials and zoomers reaching voting age are coming in extreme right from the get go. It's no longer fashionable to be a moderate Dem. They're the future. Maybe some Repubs are moderate in CT and the Northeast and some outer fringes of the West Coast cities but that's about the extent of it.
I'm not on FB but I've seen and been shown some of the posts on the Leaving CT page. "Freedom" is a common term as in to escape an oppressive CT gov, they can get pretty extreme.

[SteveM85]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

You literally have a prominent Democrat making baseless election stealing accusations, yet can’t help but bring up Republicans?

Both sides will accuse the other of stealing the election going forward. This will become the standard norm.

[JGBigGreen]

Which is terrifying and an intentional undermining of one of the core principles of our democracy.

Originally Posted by SteveM85

Both sides will accuse the other of stealing the election going forward. This will become the standard norm.

[BobNJ1960]

Originally Posted by SteveM85

but a larger % than you'd think. They're trending. It's not just the media anymore, we're past that. Younger millenials and zoomers reaching voting age are coming in extreme right from the get go. It's no longer fashionable to be a moderate Dem. They're the future. Maybe some Repubs are moderate in CT and the Northeast and some outer fringes of the West Coast cities but that's about the extent of it.
I'm not on FB but I've seen and been shown some of the posts on the Leaving CT page. "Freedom" is a common term as in to escape an oppressive CT gov, they can get pretty extreme.

Youthful extremists moderate as they get older, and wiser.

[MrGompers]

Originally Posted by SteveM85

but a larger % than you'd think. They're trending. It's not just the media anymore, we're past that. Younger millenials and zoomers reaching voting age are coming in extreme right from the get go. It's no longer fashionable to be a moderate Dem. They're the future. Maybe some Repubs are moderate in CT and the Northeast and some outer fringes of the West Coast cities but that's about the extent of it.
I'm not on FB but I've seen and been shown some of the posts on the Leaving CT page. "Freedom" is a common term as in to escape an oppressive CT gov, they can get pretty extreme.

It's spelled "Freedum"


I absolutely love that leaving CT facebook page.

[MrGompers]

Originally Posted by BobNJ1960

Youthful extremists moderate as they get older, and wiser.

Not this time, because the younger people won't be able to surpass or even attain the same level of wealth as their parents. They see thru the "regulatory capture" environment modern capitalism has created.

[dazzleman]

Originally Posted by JayCT

Well is it not true? Isn’t that the Republican MO? Accuse your opponents of doing what you are doing. Trump is a master at this. Caught many times. Now all the Republican leaders do it too. Pretty sad IMHO. Jay

Do you really believe the 2016 was stolen? And that Stacey Abrams actually won in 2018?

From what I see, the Democrats do a lot of bad things and accuse their opponents of doing them. After she officially conceded in a graceful manner, Hillary Clinton turned into the most prodigious "election denier" out there. Stacey Abrams is one too. I won't even get into their accusations about "disinformation" while they are actively spreading it.

We need a general cleanup of politics, but a completely one-sided view of things will not get us there.

[mdovell]

Huh? I don't think that's what Jayct was saying at all. Elections aren't stolen. Now does that mean that everyone wins a majority? no but some win a plurality. 1912,1916,1948,1960 (debatable), 1992, 1996, 2000 and one can say 2016 were all won with less than 50%. Most of those were democrats that won.

voter fraud isn't a real thing and has not tipped any national or state elections (including CT). The only place you can find it having somewhat of an influence would be at ward elections in much larger urban areas. Say they live in ward 2 and some from ward 3 voted for someone. But that's all local, not national. The electoral college and not direct votes get people in office. The issue in 2016 was that major polling co's were merging sample sizes that were much different. I didn't think he would get in and thought it was a joke until I looked at what was sampled. You cannot assume a group of 300 and one of 5000 should be treated the same. I ran the numbers and took out the lower sample sizes and it was *much* closer.

Getting back to CT I don't see where the republican party goes from here. They can't keep running the same candidates every year, it needs new blood and ideas.