[BobNJ1960]

Originally Posted by kidyankee764

You have asked this multiple times in the thread, and have been provided with sources that show exactly what republicans have demanded. The state democrats have ignored or rejected their requests, as is what’s happening in this very thread.

At this point, it’s not even just republicans demanding change, it’s everyone vs the democrats on this issue.

It is both a Ct and National problem for the Democratic party, with Biden upside down in polls on the crime issue by over 30%.

In November, at least at the macro (national level), liberals will learn the result of their failed "soft on thugs" policies, as Capitol Hill power will flip 180 degrees.

This is the most out of touch I have ever seen both the Ct and National Democratic party organizations.

[MrGompers]

Originally Posted by BobNJ1960

It is both a Ct and National problem for the Democratic party, with Biden upside down in polls on the crime issue by over 30%.

In November, at least at the macro (national level), liberals will learn the result of their failed "soft on thugs" policies, as Capitol Hill power will flip 180 degrees.

This is the most out of touch I have ever seen both the Ct and National Democratic party organizations.

Leading the world with 2.7 million people in prison no one in the United States is soft on crime. And that includes CT Democrats.

Feel free to keep fantasing about some alternate reality where Republicans do something about that.

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by MrGompers

I don't know how much more clear this can be.

What policies would Republicans have implemented before this shooting took place?

The republicans do not have any answers. And they never will.

And again, your “what have republicans proposed” question has been clearly answered ad nauseam in this thread. Scroll up.

Originally Posted by MrGompers

Leading the world with 2.7 million people in prison no one in the United States is soft on crime. And that includes CT Democrats.

Feel free to keep fantasing about some alternate reality where Republicans do something about that.

Democrats: “The USA has so much violence compared to our fellow western countries!”

Also Democrats: “Prison population is so high in the US, too hard on crime!”

You can’t make it up.

[RoundTableKnight]

Originally Posted by MrGompers

I don't know how much more clear this can be.

What policies would Republicans have implemented before this shooting took place?

The republicans do not have any answers. And they never will.

My guess would be more incarceration? The Republican argument might be that the individual likely had prior arrests and convictions and never should have been on the street to begin with, but the lax Democrat anti-institutionalizing policies (less incarceration and less inpatient mental health services) is why more people who should be locked up in these facilities are walking the streets. But we know that the Democrats want these people out because it's more votes for them come election time.

CT has less prisons and mental health facilities than there were 30 years ago. And do we believe there are less criminals or people needing mental health services now than there were then? Probably not.

If I were a Republican lawmaker maybe that's the argument I'd make? Idk

[MrGompers]

Originally Posted by RoundTableKnight

My guess would be more incarceration? The Republican argument might be that the individual likely had prior arrests and convictions and never should have been on the street to begin with, but the lax Democrat anti-institutionalizing policies (less incarceration and less inpatient mental health services) is why more people who should be locked up in these facilities are walking the streets. But we know that the Democrats want these people out because it's more votes for them come election time.

CT has less prisons and mental health facilities than there were 30 years ago. And do we believe there are less criminals or people needing mental health services now than there were then? Probably not.

If I were a Republican lawmaker maybe that's the argument I'd make? Idk

I think there's some truth in what your saying, but it only makes some sense if the perp had priors. Then we get into what priors did the perp have ? Most convicts are going to be released into society at some point. It's not feasible nor fiscally responsible to lock up people for life regardless of the crime they commit. That;s the only way you can solve the problem of perps with priors walking the streets.



I know that Republicans will never ever fund any thing to do with mental health, housing, or drug addiction services so I wouldn;t look to them for any solutions.



And remember the big push to close mental health facilities happened under Regan.

Also mentally ill people do not vote.

[kidyankee764]

Originally Posted by MrGompers

Most convicts are going to be released into society at some point. It's not feasible nor fiscally responsible to lock up people for life regardless of the crime they commit. That;s the only way you can solve the problem of perps with priors walking the streets.

More hypocrisy. Liberals don’t get to charge what’s fiscally responsible and what’s not - especially when it comes to crime that they continuously fail on controlling.

The only alternative to locking people up for life is:

1) early release, which has been proven to be a failure as of late, and looking at historical recidivism rates

or

2) death, which your people are against.

Pick one. And blaming Republicans is not an option.

Originally Posted by MrGompers

Also mentally ill people do not vote.

Uh, what?

Your statement means those with OCD, depression, bipolar disorder, ADD, PTSD, etc don’t vote.

You may want to revisit the BS you’re spewing here.

[JayCT]

Let’s tone down the language here and get back to the topic of the OP which is the rise of crime in Connecticut. JayCT, Moderator

[BobNJ1960]

Originally Posted by RoundTableKnight

My guess would be more incarceration? The Republican argument might be that the individual likely had prior arrests and convictions and never should have been on the street to begin with, but the lax Democrat anti-institutionalizing policies (less incarceration and less inpatient mental health services) is why more people who should be locked up in these facilities are walking the streets. But we know that the Democrats want these people out because it's more votes for them come election time.

CT has less prisons and mental health facilities than there were 30 years ago. And do we believe there are less criminals or people needing mental health services now than there were then? Probably not.

If I were a Republican lawmaker maybe that's the argument I'd make? Idk

From the standpoint of society being safe, we need repeat offenders caged for decades, not years.

Now, if I wish to be partisan, Dems, keep doing what you are doing. Polls show this is a ticking time bomb issue and, at the macro (national) level, you will be "educated" on the consequences of being the Soft on Crime party in 7 months.

[mdovell]

One of the issues I see what the rise in crime is that so much of the physical has been replaced by the virtual and some other guys that can lead to less of a social connection. In the 80's 90's if kids wanted to listen to music they probably would have got some part-time job to buy some stereo or equipment and then buy the actual physical album. Now there's so much in the way of free entertainment that's on constantly 24/7 that's easily available there isn't as much of an incentive to do as much in person.

Even here in quiet Corner we've seen a bit of a pick-up. Someone stole a riding lawn mower few months ago supposedly they just drove it off. Someone stole a quad last week. There's also been a fair amount of trespassing and bike accidents have gone up significantly.

[BobNJ1960]

Originally Posted by Stepfordct

Other group mentioned earlier has highest % of single parents that is encouraged by our welfare system at large.
IE more money if not married. The media/Govt bombards this same group that they are victims, nothing is their fault, etc.....

Worse than that they put the blame at the biggest group. Dividing us.

Keep telling a group they got a bad deal, and you can't do better, they won't even try to do better...

Fix that...

3 Strikes & You're Out largely fixed it while it was practiced. Violent crime dropped sharply the longer it was in place.

The reason is it isolates the career felon in jail, leaving larger percentages of the population who are law-abiding, even in the worst neighborhoods.

The focus of politicians needs to be making law-abiding citizens feel safer. Not making career hoodlums life easier, as is the aim of liberals in 2022.