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Old 07-29-2015, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Fairfield of the Ohio
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Really? You mean like our Founding Fathers who wore powdered Wigs and stockings along with makeup? The above pic begs for a "Monty Python" skit! Seems like we have had "Gender Identity" issues going back then!

Why do you ASSume that the men appropriated these things from the women? You might be surprised at the reality.
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Old 07-29-2015, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee, WI
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I'm not sure getting this personal is progress. I'd rather see 'Male' - 'Female' and the why, what and when is none of your damned business.
What if someone's F on the form doesn't match to the driver's license? I'd say "M"-"F"-"Undisclosed" at least.
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Old 07-29-2015, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Just accepting the fact that their are non-gender-conforming students and accomodating their needs, doesn't mean a school 'focuses' on it. Besides, gender non-conforming people are entering into the workplace as well, there are non-discrimination laws in many states and cities and many companies take those laws seriously. So, by accepting gender non-conforming students to the school, the school prepares everyone to today's reality.

But, I'd say Universities should get rid from their sport programs altogether! How professional football might help anyone to be a better engineer?
I, as a former boss, didn't care what you identified as or who you slept with, but I did care if I was going to give you a job that you had a good mind, had a good education, and could handle the job I would hire you to do.

All this, I'm a Special Snowflake crap is really just that, crap.
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Old 07-29-2015, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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It's starting to look and sound like a carnival freakshow.Where will this madness end?
Well we still have animals and inanimate objects so we've got a ways to go before it ends.
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Old 07-29-2015, 08:42 AM
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If the liberal fanatics really were liberal fanatics, they would not even ask the question of gender. Perhaps that will dawn on them one day after they explore several more iterations of foolishness.
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Old 07-29-2015, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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The problem is when you create a protected or subsidized class that attracts people who try to cheat on or game the system. If you can choose your gender then someone will try to get on the girls' wrestling team (with a scholarship of course) who is not a girl. This isn't fair to the girls or to actual trans women.
I do not believe that Male to Female Trans can participate in women's athletics. There is an "accepted" max testosterone level for athletics -- anything above that (which a MtF trans would be) would fail any drug test, rendering them ineligible.
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Old 07-29-2015, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Ocean Shores, WA
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I really don't understand this "Gender Identity" stuff.

I was born a male and I will die a male.

But if Medicare would pay for it, I would like a Vagina and a 12 inch Penis.
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Old 07-29-2015, 09:10 AM
 
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Your simplistic retort is barely worthy of a response. Clearly you are devoid of historical knowledge to know what their thinking was for the time, and what they envisioned for the future. The myopic attempt to look at them with a modern day PC lens is your undoing.
If you really care to educate yourself, read their personal writings (i.e. Federalist Papers) and their intent beyond the limitations of their times.
Please feel to enlighten me on actual information to counter my statement. Because you used a lot of words to say "you're wrong" but didn't actually present any supporting information.
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Old 07-29-2015, 09:18 AM
 
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I really don't understand this "Gender Identity" stuff.

I was born a male and I will die a male.

But if Medicare would pay for it, I would like a Vagina and a 12 inch Penis.
Shoot, you'd never get out of the house.

Mick
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Old 07-29-2015, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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What if someone's F on the form doesn't match to the driver's license? I'd say "M"-"F"-"Undisclosed" at least.
Well what if they pull a "Rachael"....A White male saying they are a Black female ?
Who are we to say they aren't ?
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