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Old 08-09-2015, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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If that guy had run a car into your house and ended up in your work office, who thinks that would be vandalism after he also ran into several cars of the street? Non-violent? Strange.
Vandalism ≠ violent crime. People who think that someone should be executed for vandalizing property are a thousand times more messed up, then the person committing the vandalism.
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Old 08-09-2015, 04:42 PM
 
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Was the guy who ran into the dealership guilty of a capital offense? No, he was not. Which means that the thug cops who murdered him were guilty of violating his Fifth Amendment rights. People who violate peoples constitutional rights are un-American and enemies of the United States and all people who value freedom.
He was a criminal plain and simple. If he didn't want to risk his life, he should have been studying. He risked his own life. Argue all you want, no one went looking for him, he went looking for risk, bet his life and lost. He was a fool, now he's a dead fool.
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Old 08-09-2015, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Coos Bay, Oregon
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He was a criminal plain and simple. If he didn't want to risk his life, he should have been studying. He risked his own life. Argue all you want, no one went looking for him, he went looking for risk, bet his life and list. He was a fool, now he's a dead fool.
Fools have constitutional rights. If you don't support the Constitution, I don't even know why you are living in this country.
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Old 08-09-2015, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Was the guy who ran into the dealership guilty of a capital offense? No, he was not. Which means that the thug cops who murdered him were guilty of violating his Fifth Amendment rights. People who violate peoples constitutional rights are un-American and enemies of the United States and all people who value freedom.


Just when I think I've ecountered every inane post...no perp is required to be "guilty of a capital offense " to be apprehended by police, who are allowed to use deadly force if necessary.

Out come the smiling graduation pictures but, luckily, there's at least footage of what happened on that car lot. An out-of-control, possibly hopped-up thug, was trespassing, vandalizing, and drove his jeep through the dealership's window. Not surprisingly, he refused to comply with orders but, hey, I guess they should've just let him go.

I feel sorry for the cop who was doing his job,
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Old 08-09-2015, 05:07 PM
 
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Fools have constitutional rights. If you don't support the Constitution, I don't even know why you are living in this country.
He exercised his rights. He decided of his own free will to become a criminal. Every criminal puts their life at risk. He gambled and lost.
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Old 08-09-2015, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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I don't know why people assume that someone who is not armed with a firearm is not dangerous. Its not hard at all for a grown man to kill someone with nothing more than his bare hands. There are women who can also do this on another averaged size person. If such a person acts in a manner that is threatening to life and limb of another person, including a police officer, that person puts themselves in a position where other people can legally also act in a violent manner and the perpetrator then can end up dead because he or she started the altercation. All being armed means is that a person can kill with less physical effort.
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Old 08-09-2015, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I don't know why people assume that someone who is not armed with a firearm is not dangerous. Its not hard at all for a grown man to kill someone with nothing more than his bare hands. There are women who can also do this on another averaged size person. If such a person acts in a manner that is threatening to life and limb of another person, including a police officer, that person puts themselves in a position where other people can legally also act in a violent manner and the perpetrator then can end up dead because he or she started the altercation. All being armed means is that a person can kill with less physical effort.
It isn't that they're not potentially dangerous.

But which is more dangerous: An unarmed man, or a cop with a gun, mace, a night stick, taser, and possibly a knife...and backup.
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Old 08-09-2015, 05:31 PM
 
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It isn't that they're not potentially dangerous.

But which is more dangerous: An unarmed man, or a cop with a gun, mace, a night stick, taser, and possibly a knife...and backup.
For some reason, not all unarmed people understand the armed cop or armed civilian is more dangerous.
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Old 08-09-2015, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Austin
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An unarmed suspect doesn't mean they can't be a deadly suspect.

Man charged in Birmingham detective's beating; outrage follows support of attack on social media | AL.com

A Center Point man with a violent past is now charged with attempted murder in the pistol-whipping of a Birmingham police detective during a traffic stop Friday morning.

Police today identified the suspect as 34-year-old Janard Shamar Cunningham, also known as Janaris Shavar Cunningham. He has at least a half dozen convictions dating back to 1999, and as many arrests in which charges were dismissed during the same time period.

Cunningham is charged in the beating of a detective who is a six-year veteran of the force. Authorities said Cunningham stole the detective's gun and then repeatedly hit him in the head until the detective stopped moving.


The officer is still alive, but not for lack of trying to kill him by the suspect.
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Old 08-09-2015, 05:57 PM
 
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The problem is that failure to put your hands up and cooperate results in death for a black far more often than it does for a white person. Didn't that ever strike you as odd? Or do you think that white people always cooperate with the cops?

Deadly Force, in Black and White - ProPublica
First off blacks commit more crime than whites..so the odds go up right there. And yea, I think they resist more too..so there ya go.
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