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Old 12-30-2015, 06:49 AM
 
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Keep digging your PC graves, you liberals. We're enjoying every minute of it. This will backfire in your faces harder than you ever expected.

If youre born a man, youre a man. If youre born a woman, youre a women. No amount of surgery in the world will ever change that. Live with it, move on, and quit pushing your twisted agenda on society. k thx bye
THIS!!!

You are born with either XY or XX chromosomes, sorry if it bothers you, but you will be either a man or woman. Honestly, I'd feel a lot better if transsexuals just referred to themselves as Martians.
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Old 12-30-2015, 06:53 AM
 
Location: CT
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The New York City Commission on Human Rights has issued rules that fine employers for referring to transsexuals by their real gender.

The new “guidance” (“NYC Pronoun Ban”), which has power to levy hefty fines against “violators” who “discriminate,” is an extension of the New York City Human Rights Law, based on the city’s laws against gender discrimination.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ny...xuals-by-their
So, wait a minute, here's a definition of gender:

"the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones)."

So what is their "real" gender at the time of employment because the majority of society including government forms, at some level require a sexual identity and the employer may be left with no options to make another choice in identifying the individual other than male or female. This is going to get entangled in the courts as employers defend themselves and transgender rights get tested under civil liberty law, win/win for the lawyers. We are also at a point in history where we can no longer rely on natural and obvious physical identities, technology has changed all that through surgical alterations. We've created our own monster, let your imagination run wild at the possibilities for future modifications and identities.
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Old 12-30-2015, 07:08 AM
 
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Great couple of posts from you! Awesome analogies in this one.

1. Some people out there would like everyone to fit in a little box - male and female, even heterosexual. But the world doesn't work like this, and as far back as history goes, people have not fit into these little boxes. Interesting to note, in ancient Rome it was commonplace - not necessarily openly discussed, but frequently happened - 2. for men to have sex with underage or younger males. Even married men would have sex with younger males. It was accepted, but not really spoken about. .....
1. Humans are born male and female.. what other little or big box is there?
A transgender is not born as some 3rd gender. Even artificially, they are not both woman and man, with HRT they are still a man or still a woman until the operation is complete.

I understand and accept those born with both male and female sexual organs as hermaphrodite or even androgynous. But people who want to "transition" into a woman or man and don't identify with their birthed gender need to get the operation, not live their life as a woman with male organs or vice versa.

The biased NYC legislation / LGBT 3rd gender movement is not scientifically or biologically correct, only a psychiatrist worshipping liberal society would call it this. Not even Romans, Mayans, Aboriginese or Navajo, or all the historical periods you can dig up called them a 3rd gender. NOBODY agrees with this except pseudo-psychiatrists. There are 1000s of psychiatrists who could dispute thse claims. Basically pick the medical professional that fits your agenda and run with it.

2. Yes and so do Afghanistan men with boys. Their saying is women and girls are for housework and cooking and boys are for pleasure. Pretty messed up to rape young boys or girls.

Since we are using fantasy logic, can I call a mermaid a fish, is the pillsbury dough boy a biscuit or a chubby carb being, is chewbacca a sasquatch or orangutan?

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Old 12-30-2015, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Hickory, NC
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The New York City Commission on Human Rights has issued rules that fine employers for referring to transsexuals by their real gender.

The new “guidance” (“NYC Pronoun Ban”), which has power to levy hefty fines against “violators” who “discriminate,” is an extension of the New York City Human Rights Law, based on the city’s laws against gender discrimination.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ny...xuals-by-their
So instead of "he" or "she", instead I should say..... "it"?
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Old 12-30-2015, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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stupid law but anything that annoys the rednecks is alright by me
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Old 12-30-2015, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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stupid law but anything that annoys the rednecks is alright by me
Somehow I doubt rednecks are the ones complaining the loudest. Most that I know don't care or have never even met one. Nice try though.
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Old 12-30-2015, 08:25 AM
 
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stupid law but anything that annoys the rednecks is alright by me
'Rednecks" = what to you?
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Old 12-30-2015, 08:26 AM
 
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Rednecks would be smart enough to shoot one on sight like a zombie. Us NYErs are far too "evolved" to do such a thing.
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Old 12-30-2015, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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It is a mental health issue. What goes on in their head doesn't match their body. It is a type of dysphoria like when a bare bones person looks in the mirror and sees a fat person.

Gender Dysphoria: What It Is and How It's Treated

Transgenderism Is A Mental Illness, Not A Civil Rights Issue - John Hawkins - Page full

I still think that feeding the fantasy is wrong and only makes it harder in the end. The people that exhibit this behavior usually have a lot going on besides the gender issue, it is a list of symptoms.
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Old 12-30-2015, 10:10 AM
 
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It is a mental health issue. What goes on in their head doesn't match their body. It is a type of dysphoria like when a bare bones person looks in the mirror and sees a fat person.

Gender Dysphoria: What It Is and How It's Treated

Transgenderism Is A Mental Illness, Not A Civil Rights Issue - John Hawkins - Page full

I still think that feeding the fantasy is wrong and only makes it harder in the end. The people that exhibit this behavior usually have a lot going on besides the gender issue, it is a list of symptoms.
No, being transgender in and of itself is not a mental health issue. Anxiety and depression caused by either not being able to accept yourself and/or the way you are treated by others is the issue.

It's right here in your first link....


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Gender dysphoria used to be called “gender identity disorder.” But the mismatch between body and internal sense of gender is not a mental illness. Instead, what need to be addressed are the stress, anxiety, and depression that go along with it.
The second dude has been debunked and is not in agreement with the majority of the medical community.
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