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The article didn't say anything specific, but here are some quotes:
"...violates the ability of Amish residents to exercise their religion."
"...equine diapers violate the community's religious standards."
"...the law is singling out the Amish."
All very vague, and nonsensical to me.
And while the article did use the term diaper several times, when quoting the law it said "properly fitted collection device."
Sorry, I missed this but as you say, this is very vague and without the context of those quotes, pretty meaningless. The chain of logic to the various articles I have read seem to be that 1) the Amish don't drive cars and rely on horses for transportation and their livelihood 2) I believe it was a non-Amish vet that decided that poop bags on horses, the way Amish use horses, aren't a good idea for the horses 3) the Amish say that they feel the horses would be frightened by the bags which brings us back to 1) the Amish use horses in their every day practise of religion and the bags would interfere in their minds, due to a)frightened horses or b) what the vet had to say and thus incidentally interfere with their freedom of religion.
It singles out the Amish, or appears to, because the Amish are really the only ones this law would impact.
Sweetie, it is a simple solution to a REAL problem. Why do you think there are laws. Hint, it isn't the horse owners who are voting in these laws. Clean up after your pet!
And as far a weeds go, I'm not talking about bringing in invasive species (in the case of the Amish), I'm talking about spreading existing weeds. Many posts here have mention how great hose poo is for growing things, and weeds don't exactly need any help...
Can you tell me why you, and everyone who has a horse as a pet, can't simply use one of these?
Show me where it is a real problem. There are some town ordinances that are being fought in court, some have been struck down for lack of showing it is a problem, other places do not have such laws. I think laws have been put in place in some communities, well I dont think one article said it, because of complaints by citizens and it was amended to the order to clean up dog poo. Complaints dont mean there is a real problem. It means someone doesnt like it. There is no evidence of any health or weed problem.
Ill ask you why are horse riders in parades or individual horse riders not required to have their horses wear diapers if it is such a real problem.
Why I would not use a horse diaper. Because a drop of poop in the middle of a county road a couple times a year or along a horse trail is not an issue. No one is walking there, it cant be smelled over other smells, it doesn't cause a health hazard, it will wash away first rain. It can cause the horse to spook or irritate the horse during a ride. If my horse pooped where there is human traffic, like parking lots, driveways, parks, etc. where humans would come directly in contact with it I would clean it up. I am sure dog, cat, bird owners dont always clean up their pets poo if it is not in an human accessible area.
As far as weeds go the same post are testimony to there not being weeds in the horse poo. You have not shown any evidence to the fact because there is no evidence that horse poo spreads weeds. You havent even clarified what weeds you are talking about. Give us scientific name(s) of a toxic, destructive, invasive or nuisance weed that are proliferated and spread by horse manure.
1. Does not being able to control one group of animals mean that we cannot control another group of animals. One group is wild, the other is domesticated. You're grasping at straws here.
2. So if we can't solve a problem 100%, we shouldn't work on fixing it at all? You're grasping at straws here, too.
3. I wasn't aware that many humans were defecating on the roads. You're grasping at straws once again.
1.Why is one group of animals pooping a problem and another group doing the same thing not a problem?
2. Show me the problem.
3. I have no idea what your talking about.
As I dont see how it pertains to their religion either they do have points in that a device is not required for parade horses or other riders and there is no evidence their horse poo is a hazzard to the community as accused.
Every parade I've ever been to, someone is following the horses with a shovel and trashcan to clean up after the horse. So while a bag may not be attached to a horse, it is still being cleaned up after.
Can you tell me why you, and everyone who has a horse as a pet, can't simply use one of these?
Because many horses simply won't tolerate having a flapping piece of canvas smacking against their hindquarters. They'll bolt - and a bolting horse in harness is a major emergency. Those bags also don't hold very much manure, which makes them impractical for extended periods in harness.
The poop catchers that fasten to the buggy shafts don't have the same likelihood of spooking the horse, and are therefore safer. They are also larger in capacity (which matters to the Amish, who are going to be working their horse a lot longer than the average pleasure rider or driver is going to be riding about).
And here's a picture of the type of poop bag that most drivers use: Horse Diaper - Manure Bag Nylon Big Black Horse LLC. The top snaps fasten to the harness, the bottom ones to the shafts; the weight is held mostly by the shafts, and the bag is held open suspended behind the horse. The horse may feel the upper edge of the bag brush its hindquarters, but it's not going to be whacked by the bag as the buggy moves.
Every parade I've ever been to, someone is following the horses with a shovel and trashcan to clean up after the horse. So while a bag may not be attached to a horse, it is still being cleaned up after.
Thats not the issue. As per the article cleaning up in that manner was something the Amish suggested. The law states the Amish horses wear a diaper or collection device. The clean up or prevention is only imposed on the Amish buggies is my understanding.
I bet if a certain religion (wink wink) refused to follow a law or rule in America, some of the same people here sympathizing with the Amish would then mock these followers and tell them to go take a hike (out of America) if they don't want to follow rules.
Modifying the law to allow the Amish to use an APPROPRIATE collection device is hardly "giving them a pass."
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