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Old 09-02-2018, 07:20 PM
 
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It becomes other people's business at the precise point where it infringes on other people's rights.

There was a man in a wheelchair who needed one certain seat; there were other empty seats on the bus that the woman in question could have taken. She is capable of walking, she is capable of shopping apparently, she is capable of functioning out in public alone, but somehow her disability is so severe that she is NOT capable of changing seats and she deserves the wheelchair-capable seat as much as the man who is actually in a wheelchair? At least that is what some people (including the pastor in the video) seem to be saying, but to me, that does not add up.

Well said. If you can pull behind you a two wheeled shopping cart from the store and on the bus, you can change seats. The young man behind her on the video says take my seat.


Karma is a b*ch, she may find in her future she will be in need of a walker or wheelchair.

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Most don't take the carts. I'm actually surprised the bus driver let it on.


I just saw the other post, I did think it was an actual shopping cart.
You can see her shopping cart in front of her in the video, it's one those shopping carts for seniors on two wheels.
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Old 09-04-2018, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Watervliet, NY
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Most don't take the carts. I'm actually surprised the bus driver let it on.


I just saw the other post, I did think it was an actual shopping cart.
My ex used to use one of those little carts on wheels all the time, on the subway, train, or bus in NYC. And he was 27 when we first met in 1996.
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Old 09-04-2018, 12:02 PM
 
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My ex used to use one of those little carts on wheels all the time, on the subway, train, or bus in NYC. And he was 27 when we first met in 1996.
Yeah, they're pretty common in NYC among people of all ages, even though they're sometimes called "granny carts." However, I find them pretty annoying when people take them on a crowded bus. And it seems like all the buses I ride are crowded. Even when I take a small suitcase on a bus, I feel like I'm constantly in people's way.
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Old 09-04-2018, 02:45 PM
 
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The transit system needs some revisions, imo.
Its her belief shes falls within current set stands. Other than our personal opins on the topic, we have no way of knowing. We all agree refusing to move a small distance isnt normal. Alternative reason for refusals been given; whether they're acceped or not's everyone choose. I do credit you for not stooping to name calling and various other unnecessary commentary here in the thread.



The very commentary and name calling that would have been rampant in this thread had it been a younger individual.
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Old 09-04-2018, 03:33 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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The very commentary and name calling that would have been rampant in this thread had it been a younger individual.
Moot point.
A moot point can be either an issue open for debate, or a matter of no practical value or importance because it's hypothetical.
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Old 09-06-2018, 01:54 PM
 
Location: At the corner of happy and free
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It becomes other people's business at the precise point where it infringes on other people's rights.

There was a man in a wheelchair who needed one certain seat; there were other empty seats on the bus that the woman in question could have taken. She is capable of walking, she is capable of shopping apparently, she is capable of functioning out in public alone, but somehow her disability is so severe that she is NOT capable of changing seats and she deserves the wheelchair-capable seat as much as the man who is actually in a wheelchair? At least that is what some people (including the pastor in the video) seem to be saying, but to me, that does not add up.
I can't rep you again, but I want to thank you for being a voice of reason.
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Old 09-14-2018, 06:57 AM
 
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I took this pic yesterday of a bus in NYC. It seems that if the signage had been very clear on the bus in question in this thread that anyone (meaning ANYONE, including elderly, infirm, handicapped) would have to move if a wheelchair passenger boarded that this problem would not have escalated to this level in the first place.

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Old 09-14-2018, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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I took this pic yesterday of a bus in NYC. It seems that if the signage had been very clear on the bus in question in this thread that anyone (meaning ANYONE, including elderly, infirm, handicapped) would have to move if a wheelchair passenger boarded that this problem would not have escalated to this level in the first place.
The sign was very clear. "RESERVED FOR SENIORS AND PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES", of which she was both.
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Old 09-14-2018, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Speaking as a disabled person, I find it really offensive to be told I need to carry a placard around and pull it out to proclaim my disability to everyone in sight. I, and many other disabled people, work very hard every day to minimize the effects of our disability so we can take care of ourselves and not inconvenience anyone else. Maybe we should all wear scarlet "D's" on our chests as well.
I agree 100% except in the case of people accompanied by questionable "service dogs". Too many people who are entitled rather than disabled are abusing that.
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Old 09-14-2018, 09:23 AM
 
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The sign was very clear. "RESERVED FOR SENIORS AND PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES", of which she was both.
You missed my point. Go back and re-read my post. Did you not see the word "IF" in my post? I'm stating that NYC signage is superior to what appears on the bus in question. It's clear and leaves no room for this type of outcome where a wheelchair bound passenger is left on the side of the road in the heat.
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