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Old 08-31-2018, 06:36 PM
 
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I'd assume he had unseen issues or I'll rephrase it as what it more than likely is ; seen or unseen disabities.
What disabilities would someone have, that would enable them go out shopping alone, bringing along a shopping cart, walking and riding on public transit, that would also NOT enable them to move over a few inches to accommodate another disabled person? I'm honestly curious.
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Old 08-31-2018, 07:20 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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So how do they charge? Same fare to ride where ever or do you buy a ticket somewhere? I honestly haven't ridden a bus since I was a teen so that's 40 years ago. Back then I believe we paid the driver according to where we went
At least here in the Bay Area, bus fare is a flat rate regardless of how far you're going (from one end of the route to the other). That's why homeless people will often sleep on the bus... you can get on the El Camino route in San Jose, lay down in the back, and have a nice nap for about 2 hours until reaching San Francisco. All for like $2!

(actually I have no idea how much it costs these days - since I too haven't been on a bus in ages)
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Old 09-01-2018, 04:24 AM
 
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Hot right off of the press , it's common knowledge that younger people have superior physical skills and abilities than the elderly population , and justly would need to be judged much more harshly.



Hot right off of the press: Younger people can have disabilities too. Not all of them have superior physical skills and abilities.



I can't believe so many people are giving this woman a free pass to be a jerk. But hey it takes all kinds.
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Old 09-01-2018, 04:25 AM
 
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What disabilities would someone have, that would enable them go out shopping alone, bringing along a shopping cart, walking and riding on public transit, that would also NOT enable them to move over a few inches to accommodate another disabled person? I'm honestly curious.



Thank you!
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Old 09-01-2018, 06:58 AM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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What disabilities would someone have, that would enable them go out shopping alone, bringing along a shopping cart, walking and riding on public transit, that would also NOT enable them to move over a few inches to accommodate another disabled person? I'm honestly curious.
Various medical and mental health reasons. Could be her power of normal reasoning declining from aging. Combative refusals classic. Forgeting or refusing meds or she could simply have a lifetime of mental health problems.
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Old 09-01-2018, 08:23 AM
 
Location: South Bay Native
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Hot right off of the press , it's common knowledge that younger people have superior physical skills and abilities than the elderly population , and justly would need to be judged much more harshly.

And I can't believe that so many of you are so naive that you don't even know that they have a (Door to Door) Para - Transit System that transports (Wheelchair bound ) passengers. My wife has a above the knee Amputation and sometimes pays the minimun fare and rides it. My wife also has Kaiser Permanente Medical Insurance that offers totally free transportation anywhere via taxis cabs (as long as it's for a medical appointment) the last time that my wife used it , she got a 40 mile taxis cab ride down to San Francisco.
The wheelchair bound person in the video doesn't look like your wife.
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Old 09-01-2018, 08:29 AM
 
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What disabilities would someone have, that would enable them go out shopping alone, bringing along a shopping cart, walking and riding on public transit, that would also NOT enable them to move over a few inches to accommodate another disabled person? I'm honestly curious.
*******ry
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Old 09-01-2018, 09:01 AM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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That person would have also been raked over the coals here in this forum. But since she is older then it is fine what she did. I can't even take people seriously who have such a warped thought process.
Thats your interpretation. Show me where someone said its "fine".

I hope you never have to care for someone aging or mentally unbalanced.
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Old 09-01-2018, 10:48 AM
 
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Various medical and mental health reasons. Could be her power of normal reasoning declining from aging. Combative refusals classic. Forgeting or refusing meds or she could simply have a lifetime of mental health problems.
So, you are suggesting mental illness or dementia as her disability? That raises the interesting question of whether people who suffer from mental illness or dementia to the extent that they are unable or unwilling to comprehend and comply with simple directions should be allowed to use public transit unaccompanied. Such people pose not only an inconvenience but a danger to themselves and others.
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Old 09-01-2018, 11:40 AM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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So, you are suggesting mental illness or dementia as her disability? That raises the interesting question of whether people who suffer from mental illness or dementia to the extent that they are unable or unwilling to comprehend and comply with simple directions should be allowed to use public transit unaccompanied. Such people pose not only an inconvenience but a danger to themselves and others.
Begs the question of who gets to screen passengers for mental disabilities AND probably keeps many passengers from using public transportation.
Best case scenario is that everyone beginning to show signs of dementia has a caring support system around them to help them as the disease worsens. But that doesn't always happen, some older people live isolated lives and their problems aren't recognized or dealt with until something happens to bring it to public attention.

"Although it can be hard to understand why people with dementia act the way they do, the explanation is attributable to their disease and the changes it causes in the brain. - Aggression is usually triggered by something—often physical discomfort, environmental factors such as being in an unfamiliar situation, or even poor communication. “A lot of times aggression is coming from pure fear” https://www.aplaceformom.com/blog/20...ntia-behavior/
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