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Curious to why the question needed to be asked. Did you not consider the possibility ?
Yes, most normal people don’t take shopping carts on busses. I think changing seats meant she wasn’t within touching distance of it and she didn’t want to leave it to change seats.
Yes, most normal people don’t take shopping carts on busses. I think changing seats meant she wasn’t within touching distance of it and she didn’t want to leave it to change seats.
Although I don't use public transportation, live close to a busy bus stop. Disabled, homeless and elderly with their stuff in tow. That's security for them.
Although I don't use public transportation, live close to a busy bus stop. Disabled, homeless and elderly with their stuff in tow. That's security for them.
Yes and they are frequently victims of such crimes. People won’t even take their shoes off in many homeless shelters cause they’ll be gone by morning. Anyone could pretty much take anything from a person like that, because no police officer is going to take it seriously.They learn to be vigilant.
My question was rhetorical. I could have ended it with a period instead of a question mark.
I was speaking to the post below. So no, you didnt answer the question.
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What disabilities would someone have, that would enable them go out shopping alone, bringing along a shopping cart, walking and riding on public transit, that would also NOT enable them to move over a few inches to accommodate another disabled person? I'm honestly curious.
I was speaking to the post below. So no, you didnt answer the question.
My opinion, which may not be a popular one, is that people whose dementia and/or mental illness makes them unable to comprehend speech, interpret gestures, or follow simple directions should not be out unaccompanied on public transit. These people need caregivers so they do not endanger themselves or others.
So, when I originally asked what disability someone would have which would enable them to go out shopping and use public transit ALONE, but be unable to understand and follow a request to move a short distance to accommodate another disabled person, mental illness and dementia of the type described above does not qualify. Because such a person is not, in fact, able to be out alone.
An otherwise competent person who is merely stubborn or defiant and chooses not to move for no other reason than that they don't want to and feel they shouldn't have to is not disabled.
My opinion, which may not be a popular one, is that people whose dementia and/or mental illness makes them unable to comprehend speech, interpret gestures, or follow simple directions should not be out unaccompanied on public transit. These people need caregivers so they do not endanger themselves or others.
So, when I originally asked what disability someone would have which would enable them to go out shopping and use public transit ALONE, but be unable to understand and follow a request to move a short distance to accommodate another disabled person, mental illness and dementia of the type described above does not qualify. Because such a person is not, in fact, able to be out alone.
An otherwise competent person who is merely stubborn or defiant and chooses not to move for no other reason than that they don't want to and feel they shouldn't have to is not disabled.
My opinion, which may not be a popular one, is that people whose dementia and/or mental illness makes them unable to comprehend speech, interpret gestures, or follow simple directions should not be out unaccompanied on public transit. These people need caregivers so they do not endanger themselves or others.
So, when I originally asked what disability someone would have which would enable them to go out shopping and use public transit ALONE, but be unable to understand and follow a request to move a short distance to accommodate another disabled person, mental illness and dementia of the type described above does not qualify. Because such a person is not, in fact, able to be out alone.
An otherwise competent person who is merely stubborn or defiant and chooses not to move for no other reason than that they don't want to and feel they shouldn't have to is not disabled.
Sometimes it's hard to determine if someone is mentally ill, or just a jackass. I suppose everyone could carry their medical record around, but who will be appointed to determine?
What if the person just recently became mentally ill, is there a time out box suggested where The One Who Determines will evaluate their readiness to ride the bus unaccompanied by these caregivers that everyone should have?
Sometimes it's hard to determine if someone is mentally ill, or just a jackass. I suppose everyone could carry their medical record around, but who will be appointed to determine?
What if the person just recently became mentally ill, is there a time out box suggested where The One Who Determines will evaluate their readiness to ride the bus unaccompanied by these caregivers that everyone should have?
Well, let's put it this way. I think there are definitely times when it would be appropriate to gently but firmly escort the mentally ill and senile off the bus and attempt to contact their caregiver/family (if any). I'm not saying this is always feasible, nor am I suggesting who should do it or how it should be paid for.
But, in my opinion, the physically able but mentally ill do not have a right to usurp the very limited seating for folks in wheelchairs. A "person with an invisible disability" who was able to get him/herself on the bus should also be able to move over one seat. If they truly cannot comprehend how or why they would be asked to do so, then an evaluation is in order.
It's not too hard to imagine an emergency situation in which a bus has to be evacuated. If this senile or mentally ill person can't understand what is going on, refuses to leave the bus, and dies or is injured as a result, everyone will be exclaiming in horror that they shouldn't have been out on the bus alone.
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