Why does dfw area get bashed so much? (Dallas, Fort Worth: taxes, living)

[Yellow pool of piddle]

Originally Posted by lepoisson

Why is the two airports thing such a big deal to people? If they closed Love field and opened a new terminal at DFW for Southwest, I don't think anyone would notice any difference in flight times and availability.

Wanna fly Southwest? Go to Love. Don't want to fly Southwest? Go to DFW.

No way! Love Field is so plugged into central Dallas and the surrounding legacy retail to it that it should be considered part of it. The same isn't true of Hobby in Houston.

[Yellow pool of piddle]

Originally Posted by lepoisson

If you are driving in traffic, Midway is about 5-10 minutes closer than O'Hare. People use both airports regularly depending on what airline they are flying. ORD is about 17 miles from downtown. Midway is about 13.

Because DFW has to main cities, it would be awesome if DFW were a little closer to Dallas (maybe where Love is currently), and Southwest used Meacham. This would make it easier for folks on the FW side of the metro to access an airport.

From downtown Fort Worth, DFW airport is about 25mi, and Love field is 35mi. Meacham would only be about 6mi.

You perceive Dallas from the point of view of all those empty skyscrapers downtown. In Dallas, retail is what makes the world go around. Lemmon connects to Uptown oand has become a mecca for Luxury car dealerships. Mockingbird Lane connects Love Field to Highland Park Village. Lovers Lane connects Love Field to the Miracle Mile of Shopping and Inwood Village. The Northwest Highway connects Love Field to both Preston Center and NorthPark Center. Finally, Maple Avenue connects Love Field with the heart of Uptown and downtown.

[biscuit_head]

Originally Posted by lepoisson

If you are driving in traffic, Midway is about 5-10 minutes closer than O'Hare. People use both airports regularly depending on what airline they are flying. ORD is about 17 miles from downtown. Midway is about 13.

Because DFW has to main cities, it would be awesome if DFW were a little closer to Dallas (maybe where Love is currently), and Southwest used Meacham. This would make it easier for folks on the FW side of the metro to access an airport.

From downtown Fort Worth, DFW airport is about 25mi, and Love field is 35mi. Meacham would only be about 6mi.

DFW was built almost equidistant between Downtown Dallas and Ft Worth. There needed to be a larger airport to replace Love Field and Greater Southwest Airport was built to serve Ft. Worth, but never got the air traffic that Love Field had, and the Civil Aeronautics Board was tired of funding 2 airports when one was getting the vast majority of traffic, so the CAB ordered Dallas and Ft Worth to quit bickering and build an airport between the two cities. DFW was built as a compromise in the mid 70s. There's no way Love Field could ever be as large or as busy as DFW due to its location. The city of Dallas didn't close Love Field and Southwest stayed put when all the other airlines moved to DFW. There were some long fought court battles related to this and the Wright Amendment was created to restrict Southwest's reach after deregulation passed in the late 70s. Due to the long sordid history between Southwest and Braniff and later on, American, there's no way in hell Southwest will ever fly into Meacham and risk giving up its hard fought home turf at Love Field.

[lepoisson]

Originally Posted by Yellow pool of piddle

You perceive Dallas from the point of view of all those empty skyscrapers downtown. In Dallas, retail is what makes the world go around. Lemmon connects to Uptown oand has become a mecca for Luxury car dealerships. Mockingbird Lane connects Love Field to Highland Park Village. Lovers Lane connects Love Field to the Miracle Mile of Shopping and Inwood Village. The Northwest Highway connects Love Field to both Preston Center and NorthPark Center. Finally, Maple Avenue connects Love Field with the heart of Uptown and downtown.

You make it seem like all anyone ever does in Dallas is go shopping. DFW has a great economy, not because of the retail shopping, but because of the jobs available.

[Yellow pool of piddle]

Originally Posted by lepoisson

You make it seem like all anyone ever does in Dallas is go shopping. DFW has a great economy, not because of the retail shopping, but because of the jobs available.

Starting from the Dallas Design District, take a ride out Harry Hines Boulevard some day. The citizens of Dallas take their city for granted. There is ten miles of wholesale stretching along Harry Hines for ten miles all the way from downtown to the LBJ Freeway and beyond. A similar journey up the North Dallas Parkway and you will pass a mind boggling number of furniture and home furnishing stores. Further east, Preston Road is called the golden retail corridor for a reason.

I disagree with you. To understand Dallas, one has to focus more upon the retail shopping centers than upon those empty skyscrapers downtown.

[Stevehanrahan41]

Originally Posted by Yellow pool of piddle

Starting from the Dallas Design District, take a ride out Harry Hines Boulevard some day. The citizens of Dallas take their city for granted. There is ten miles of wholesale stretching along Harry Hines for ten miles all the way from downtown to the LBJ Freeway and beyond. A similar journey up the North Dallas Parkway and you will pass a mind boggling number of furniture and home furnishing stores. Further east, Preston Road is called the golden retail corridor for a reason.

I disagree with you. To understand Dallas, one has to focus more upon the retail shopping centers than upon those empty skyscrapers downtown.

What is with you trying to prove Dallas is some sort of retail mecca and you're strange obsession with "empty downtown skyscrapers"? Lol

[bluescreen73]

Wow this thread went massively off the rails. From why DFW isn't a CD darling to racism, airports, shopping, a prime example of pork barrel spending, and the presence of "mountains" near DFW.

The Superconducting Supercollider is not something that should be celebrated. It was a colossal waste of money. $2 billion poured into a partially completed hole in the ground. Your federal government at work.

Also, nobody really calls The Hill Country a mountain range yet the highest point in The Hill Country is 1,000' higher than the Arbuckle "Mountains." Anybody who's seen the Rockies, Sierras, Cascades, Alaskas, Aleutians, the Black Hills, Appalachians, etc, will scratch their heads and wonder why the Arbuckles are called mountains. They're decently-sized hills - not unlike the Hill Country or the Driftless Region of the Upper Midwest. The Ouachita are slightly better, but still fairly puny.

The closest mountains of any real consequence to DFW will be either the Davis, Chisos, or Guadalupe Mountains in Far West Texas.

[EDS_]

Originally Posted by bluescreen73

Wow this thread went massively off the rails. From why DFW isn't a CD darling to racism, airports, shopping, a prime example of pork barrel spending, and the presence of "mountains" near DFW.

The Superconducting Supercollider is not something that should be celebrated. It was a colossal waste of money. $2 billion poured into a partially completed hole in the ground. Your federal government at work.

Also, nobody really calls The Hill Country a mountain range yet the highest point in The Hill Country is 1,000' higher than the Arbuckle "Mountains." Anybody who's seen the Rockies, Sierras, Cascades, Alaskas, Aleutians, the Black Hills, Appalachians, etc, will scratch their heads and wonder why the Arbuckles are called mountains. They're decently-sized hills - not unlike the Hill Country or the Driftless Region of the Upper Midwest. The Ouachita are slightly better, but still fairly puny.

The closest mountains of any real consequence to DFW will be either the Davis, Chisos, or Guadalupe Mountains in Far West Texas.

1. The Arbuckles are called mountains in part because in the deep past the tallest were thought to be roughly 20,000 ft. tall.

2. The SSC was such a waste of money after we killed it because we couldn't be bothered to invest about 3 weeks equivalent of federal social welfare spending that the Europeans/CERN built The Large Hadron Collider and they will own most significant partial physics advancements for the foreseeable future.

[serger]

Originally Posted by bluescreen73

Wow this thread went massively off the rails. From why DFW isn't a CD darling to racism, airports, shopping, a prime example of pork barrel spending, and the presence of "mountains" near DFW.

The Superconducting Supercollider is not something that should be celebrated. It was a colossal waste of money. $2 billion poured into a partially completed hole in the ground. Your federal government at work.

Also, nobody really calls The Hill Country a mountain range yet the highest point in The Hill Country is 1,000' higher than the Arbuckle "Mountains." Anybody who's seen the Rockies, Sierras, Cascades, Alaskas, Aleutians, the Black Hills, Appalachians, etc, will scratch their heads and wonder why the Arbuckles are called mountains. They're decently-sized hills - not unlike the Hill Country or the Driftless Region of the Upper Midwest. The Ouachita are slightly better, but still fairly puny.

The closest mountains of any real consequence to DFW will be either the Davis, Chisos, or Guadalupe Mountains in Far West Texas.

Yes, it was colossal - it was a colossally stupid decision to cancel the SSC.

[rantanamo]

Why is every other thread on here complaining about Dallas not being like where "I" am from?