05-30-2008, 10:29 AM
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You still don't know what comparable means. These great homes you are talking about that are in the $300,000 are town homes not detached single family homes. The comparable homes are the ones in from $900,000 to 1.4 million. These are the homes that compare with the $300,000 to $400,000 homes in the DFW area with the exception that the lots are still smaller in CA.
Geeez... let me see if I can clear this one up.....
NO and NO! There are 350k homes not attached and w/ 2 car garages throughout riverside/San Bernaro counties. Look for yourself, they're there
Here is one: Lake Elsinore, CA
4/3 2,285 6,969 Sq. Ft.
$329,000
Lake Elsinore, CA
4/3 2,344 5,500 Sq. Ft.
$235,000
Lake Elsinore, CA
4/3 2,344 5,500 Sq. Ft.
$236,000 These locations 40 miles to disneyland - I think that qualifies as LA?
I hope that qualifies as comparable
set them up and I"ll glady knock em down for u...
I think you just are enamored with your written words because the fact seem to elude you time and time again. Why don't you try being a little honest with your posts. Before you reply look up honest and comparable first.
I think my honesty just prevailed
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05-30-2008, 10:32 AM
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Yeah it is kind of a waste of time.
I think I just proved my point a w/ the above post
05-30-2008, 10:34 AM
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Newbie - I'm sure your wife like mine falls in the above beautiful women category..... so the correct answer is "Absolutely!"
Well my wife being born and raise in TX I can't agree more. CA women are far too image conscious (i'm sure they're places in DFW like that too) but not to this extent. Then not to mention they run way to thin here...
05-30-2008, 10:45 AM
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It is about people leaving their state for another not growth. A child born in CA does not have the choice to leave for a better place. The couple having that child do and they are the ones leaving CA for a better life. Agree. It is more families moving from here than anything else. Check the census numbers our below 18 age is dwlinding faster than our home prices. Outside of immigrant children, it's rare to see families here anymore. It's becoming more and more like SF or NY. Kid - unfriendly.
Well, our population is ever growing and retiring in CA is only for the wealthy (SSI in CA will you're well below poverty) so they are probably leaving. Live here long enough and I have the adult population isn't from here. At my place of work and friends, 25% are native Californians... go figure....
05-30-2008, 10:47 AM
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Thread question answered ~ thanks!
So what's your response and thoughts Charles....
05-30-2008, 11:13 AM
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DWong, you're trying to make a point about comparables by citing houses in Lake Elsinore? That bullbleep. The driving distance between Lake Elsinore and, say, Century City on Wilshire is 80 miles... probably a good 2 hours on the freeways.
05-30-2008, 11:20 AM
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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I think I just proved my point a w/ the above post
No you did not prove any point but you obviously don't see that. You previously provided links to new attached town homes that were in the $300,000 to $400,000 range. The homes that were comparable and that you posted were in the $900,000 to 1.4 million dollar range. By doing that you proved our point not yours. The town homes are what you called comparable to the same houses in TX for $200,000 but the
detached TX homes have bigger lots and real yards.
You then put up 3 examples that don't even have a link to go to. But even if you were capable in providing a link they are still not comparable by any means. If you would care to provide the link I will be happy to shoot it down.
You see I am bored today and proving you wrong is entertaining of a boring day. One more point. I know Lake Elsinore it is not exactly where most CA want to live though, I don't know anyone that would want an hour plus commute for employment either. That would probably be the minimum commute.
You seem of some intelligence so I can only surmise that you like to argue even when you have no evidence to argue with.
05-30-2008, 11:26 AM
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DWong, you're trying to make a point about comparables by citing houses in Lake Elsinore? That bullbleep. The driving distance between Lake Elsinore and, say, Century City on Wilshire is 80 miles... probably a good 2 hours on the freeways.
Well Rancho Cucamonga, Ontario, Clairmont, Glendora all have similar prices and are 45 miles to Downtown LA. Traffic, well that is their problem
Again, I'll emphasize our largest growing population are adults generally 25 and older and immigrant population. We unlike TX are NOT the family friendly for the family w/ 2 or more kids. Whose moving to Tx... families bringing in 4 or more at a time... hey- if I was in the same boat it would more to consider...
05-30-2008, 11:28 AM
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No you did not prove any point but you obviously don't see that. You previously provided links to new attached town homes that were in the $300,000 to $400,000 range. The homes that were comparable and that you posted were in the $900,000 to 1.4 million dollar range. By doing that you proved our point not yours. The town homes are what you called comparable to the same houses in TX for $200,000 but the
detached TX homes have bigger lots and real yards.
You then put up 3 examples that don't even have a link to go to. But even if you were capable in providing a link they are still not comparable by any means. If you would care to provide the link I will be happy to shoot it down.
You see I am bored today and proving you wrong is entertaining of a boring day. One more point. I know Lake Elsinore it is not exactly where most CA want to live though, I don't know anyone that would want an hour plus commute for employment either. That would probably be the minimum commute.
You seem of some intelligence so I can only surmise that you like to argue even when you have no evidence to argue with.
Ask and u shall recieve.... go to ziprealty.com or zillow.com
Set em up and I"ll show the light...
Commuting an hour.. well it all depends on where you work... again, you would know that before moving there
Those are not townhouse for one and 2 real yards eh? Well ask anyone in NY, Chi or SF the last time they saw ANY yard. What's the purpose of a large yard anyways, here in CA we have so much more to do we could care less for a large yard. It takes alot of time, energy and money to fix a larger yard and make it look nice - here we have better thigns to do. It's a difference in culture here. My relatives in TX, their yards are their hobby. People in CA, let the HOA worry bout it- I've got other things to do! People who have larger estates here, don't even do their own yard. Sure it looks nice, but so does a small well put together yard. As long as my neighbor cant hear my TV, it's all good to me
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05-30-2008, 12:33 PM
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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Ask and u shall recieve.... go to ziprealty.com or zillow.com
Set em up and I"ll show the light...
Commuting an hour.. well it all depends on where you work... again, you would know that before moving there
Why would I do your work? Like I said before sit em up and I'll knock em down. Better hurry though after my six month vacation I will be going back to work soon. Thank you Texas!
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People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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4/3 2,285 6,969 Sq. Ft. $329,000 
You see I am bored today and proving you wrong is entertaining of a boring day. One more point. I know Lake Elsinore it is not exactly where most CA want to live though, I don't know anyone that would want an hour plus commute for employment either. That would probably be the minimum commute.
