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Old 09-27-2012, 06:18 PM
 
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What Romney said was correct. How he said it is the problem. Liberals want everything handed to them and don't want to work for anything. The liberal/democrat's of this country don't want too see things that way. They "work" for their money; therefore, they are upset with the truth.

The truth hurts: There are people in this country, who are walking wastes of oxygen, who are bleeding this country dry. MOST of those are liberal democrats who want everything and do nothing for it.
What a load of total BS, you on that crazy train in the first class section if thats where you think half of the country is at.Stand back a bit and see what you really just wrote down, thats the attitude thats sinking the Romney ship,rightwing extremism, =vote the way i think you should vote or you are nothing more than "a walking wastes of oxygen, who are bleeding this country dry. MOST of those are liberal democrats who want everything and do nothing for it".
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Old 09-27-2012, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The truth hurts. We are becoming a nation of the entitled. Nearly 60% are dependent on the government for some form of financial payment.

Romney is right. There's a good number of people quite content to stay where they are in life getting all their freebies from the government.

Look at Greece, Italy and Spain today because that is where we are headed in the not so distant future.
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Old 09-27-2012, 06:29 PM
 
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The truth hurts. We are becoming a nation of the entitled. Nearly 60% are dependent on the government for some form of financial payment.

Romney is right. There's a good number of people quite content to stay where they are in life getting all their freebies from the government.

Look at Greece, Italy and Spain today because that is where we are headed in the not so distant future.
Social Security and Medicare are not freebies or entitlements. I pay into those systems; I expect to be funded when it is my turn to collect.

If the right is so anti-entitlement, why don't you all forego your social security and pay your own medical expenses when you retire? You won't.
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Old 09-27-2012, 06:31 PM
 
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The truth hurts. We are becoming a nation of the entitled. Nearly 60% are dependent on the government for some form of financial payment.

Romney is right. There's a good number of people quite content to stay where they are in life getting all their freebies from the government.

Look at Greece, Italy and Spain today because that is where we are headed in the not so distant future.
So what gets cut? The big three are Medicare/Medicaid, Social Security and the Military?
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Old 09-27-2012, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Unemployment going down. Jobs going up. Bin Laden dead. Car companies thriving. Game, set, match.

Failed predictions. Priceless. How many nutjob predictions from righty pols have never come to pass? Too many to count.
GM, an 0bama success story, my ass.

Forty-four months in a row with over 8% unemployment, that is something to base your vote on, not on false narratives like "GM is successful."

GM was bought with about $58 billion of taxpayer money, and pays zero taxes for the next ten years, what company would not still be in business after that level of taxpayer coddling? If we sold our our taxpayer purchased shares in GM stock today, lose heavily. We bought GM at about $55 a share and it is now only worth $19 a share.

Nearly two years after the introduction of the path-breaking plug-in hybrid, GM is still losing as much as $49,000 on each Volt it builds, according to estimates provided to Reuters by industry analysts and manufacturing experts. GM on Monday issued a statement disputing the estimates.
Cheap Volt lease offers meant to drive more customers to Chevy showrooms this summer may have pushed that loss even higher. There are some Americans paying just $5,050 to drive around for two years in a vehicle that cost as much as $89,000 to produce.

Insight: GM's Volt: The ugly math of low sales, high costs | Reuters
Early retiree reimbursements top $2 billion | Employment Law Daily
General Motors Stock At 2012 Low, Lifting Loss Taxpayer Losses To Nearly $35 Billion by Andrew Malcolm - Investors.com


On top of all that, we taxpayers are paying $26,774,741.50 for GM's Employee Early Retirement Reimbursement Fund.
BTW, GMAC still owes us another $55 billion, and is asking for more.

Automotive Industry Financing Program (“AIFPâ€)
TARP’s automotive industry support through AIFP aimed to “prevent a significant disruption of the American automotive industry, which would pose a systemic risk to financial market stability and have a negative effect on the economy of the United States.â€79 As of June 30, 2012, General Motors Company (“GMâ€) and Ally Financial Inc. (“Ally Financialâ€), formerly GMAC Inc., remain in TARP. Taxpayers are still owed $44.5 billion. This includes about $27 billion for the TARP investment in GM and $14.7 billion for the TARP investment in Ally Financial, for which Treasury olds common stock in GM and Ally Financial. This amount also includes a $2.9 billion loss taxpayers suffered on the TARP investment in Chrysler.

Office of the Special Inspector General SIGTARP for the Troubled Asset Relief Program, page 58

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Old 09-27-2012, 06:33 PM
 
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GM, an 0bama success story, my ass.

Forty-four months in a row with over 8% unemployment, that is something to base your vote on, not on false narratives like "GM is successful."

GM was bought with about $58 billion of taxpayer money, and pays zero taxes for the next ten years, what company would not still be in business after that level of taxpayer coddling? If we sold our our taxpayer purchased shares in GM stock today, lose heavily. We bought GM at about $55 a share and it is now only worth $19 a share.

Nearly two years after the introduction of the path-breaking plug-in hybrid, GM is still losing as much as $49,000 on each Volt it builds, according to estimates provided to Reuters by industry analysts and manufacturing experts. GM on Monday issued a statement disputing the estimates.
Cheap Volt lease offers meant to drive more customers to Chevy showrooms this summer may have pushed that loss even higher. There are some Americans paying just $5,050 to drive around for two years in a vehicle that cost as much as $89,000 to produce.

Insight: GM's Volt: The ugly math of low sales, high costs | Reuters
Early retiree reimbursements top $2 billion | Employment Law Daily
General Motors Stock At 2012 Low, Lifting Loss Taxpayer Losses To Nearly $35 Billion by Andrew Malcolm - Investors.com


On top of all that, we taxpayers are paying $26,774,741.50 for GM's Employee Early Retirement Reimbursement Fund.
BTW, GMAC still owes us another $55 billion, and is asking for more.

Automotive Industry Financing Program (“AIFPâ€)
TARP’s automotive industry support through AIFP aimed to “prevent a significant disruption of the American automotive industry, which would pose a systemic risk to financial market stability and have a negative effect on the economy of the United States.â€79 As of June 30, 2012, General Motors Company (“GMâ€) and Ally Financial Inc. (“Ally Financialâ€), formerly GMAC Inc., remain in TARP. Taxpayers are still owed $44.5 billion. This includes about $27 billion for the TARP investment in GM and $14.7 billion for the TARP investment in Ally Financial, for which Treasury olds common stock in GM and Ally Financial. This amount also includes a $2.9 billion loss taxpayers suffered on the TARP investment in Chrysler.

Office of the Special Inspector General SIGTARP for the Troubled Asset Relief Program, page 58
LMAO.

Saved over a million jobs. You have no argument here.
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Old 09-27-2012, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Social Security and Medicare are not freebies or entitlements. I pay into those systems; I expect to be funded when it is my turn to collect.

If the right is so anti-entitlement, why don't you all forego your social security and pay your own medical expenses when you retire? You won't.
Well gee, in another thread you called the person on SS and mediare one of the leeches of society.
Change your tune in this thread ?
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Old 09-27-2012, 06:36 PM
 
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Old 09-27-2012, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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So what gets cut? The big three are Medicare/Medicaid, Social Security and the Military?
We scale down our social welfare programs so they are no longer over burdened by people who should not be on them. This will lower our federal budget, and make sure that the people who need the programs are served properly by them, and not get lost in the shuffle.

End the billions we give away in crony capitalism, which includes billions that agencies like the EPA hand out to their cronies too.

0bama has added about $1.5 trillion to our budget since he took office, that is $1.5 trillion in mostly wasteful give-aways.
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Old 09-27-2012, 06:38 PM
 
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The truth hurts. We are becoming a nation of the entitled. Nearly 60% are dependent on the government for some form of financial payment.

Romney is right. There's a good number of people quite content to stay where they are in life getting all their freebies from the government.

Look at Greece, Italy and Spain today because that is where we are headed in the not so distant future.
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Well gee, in another thread you called the person on SS and mediare one of the leeches of society.
Change your tune in this thread ?
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