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Old 03-03-2016, 02:56 PM
 
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Agreed. I think we ought to deregulate the military, and allow private companies to provide our defense. The government can't do anything right at all. We could cut out the entire military budget, and cut taxes in half.
That is already happening. National defense is one of the very few items that the Federal Government is actually Constitutionally responsible for. If we contract out our national defense, can we get rid of the 2.65 million employees in the Federal Government, too?
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Old 03-03-2016, 03:02 PM
 
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He also said EVERYONE will be covered and have the best healthcare coverage anywhere.

He also said that the Government will pay for healthcare and that he supports universal health care coverage.

He says A LOT of things.
Exactly. Trump is a liar.
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Old 03-03-2016, 03:13 PM
 
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Umm, you don't have liability insurance for your car? Or maybe Amish?

Mick
You are comparing apples to oranges.

You are not required to own a car. LIABILITY insurance is for the protection OF OTHER drivers. You are not required by law to purchase and maintain comprehensive insurance coverage if you own the vehicle.

You are required to purchase Obamacare by the mere fact that you breathe.

The purpose of requiring liability car insurance for cars is to protect others from injuries or damages caused by the insured.

The purpose of mandating health insurance is to confiscate money from everyone for the purposes of redistributing it to others in order to pay for a poorly designed government run insurance market.
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Old 03-03-2016, 03:16 PM
 
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Well, since healthcare isn't a right and if you don't buy health insurance you won't get a bill. Because you won't get any treatment.

Is that OK with you? Its OK with me that you don't get a bill.

Untrue. The government has required that people receive emergency treatment, regardless of their ability to pay. Additionally, eeeeevil pharma and many doctors are more than willing to make payment schedules or provide services and medication at reduced fees to the indigent where possible.
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Old 03-03-2016, 03:27 PM
 
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Once again Trump preempted his competition. Where is Cruz's healthcare plan? Trump now has plans on paper for immigration, taxes, and now healthcare. Of course everybody will pretend this never happened and will keep repeating that he is for single payer.

Cruz was busy fighting to end Obamacare when Trump was paying off Hilary to come to his 3rd wedding.

Cruz has been discussing health insurance regulation with the conservatives in congress since he got there. Unlike Trump, Cruz understands how government works and he is not going to present some plan that is nothing more than a crib sheet of plans already floated by various conservatives for the mere purpose of quieting critics. Cruz is much more thoughtful than that.

Besides, the only thing the Trump plan does is show once again how his mouth writes checks his actions can't cash.
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Old 03-03-2016, 03:33 PM
 
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Don't worry everyone, we'll have a super genius named Not Sure come along and cure everyone everywhere of everything!
Great - are you one of those Brawndo drinkers I've heard about?
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Old 03-03-2016, 03:39 PM
 
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If we do not require people to buy insurance,and they do not want it,then those same people cannot complain when the ER refuses to treat them.

Why do we expect hospitals to treat people for free?
The workers have to be paid too.

DO we expect car mechanics to fix broken cars for free? NO
So why are hospitals any different?

People should be require to buy health insurance.

YOu have to buy car insurance,so why not something more important like health?

I say revoke EMTALA.

Do not want to buy inusrance?
You want to play with fire(in this case your health) do not complain when you get burned(in which case the ER turns you away for lack of pay)
This is a straw man argument. Before Obamacare, people chose to get insurance or chose not to based on their particular financial abilities, health concerns, age, priorities, etc.

Obamacare did not solve that problem, it merely required a "one size fits all" mandate that required people, regardless of their financial abilities, health concerns, aged, priorities, to purchase.

Many people were happy with the insurance they had, but were told that they were too stupid to realize that the plan they purchased was junk and that they needed everything from maternity care to breast exams and the fact that the person was a 32 year old single man didn't matter.

The only people who go to the emergency room without the expectation or ability to pay are homeless, drug addicted, or otherwise compromised individuals which did not change as a result of Obamacare.

Obamacare did not solve the problems with the health insurance system and created a host of new problems that were never a problem before Obamacare.
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Old 03-03-2016, 03:45 PM
 
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Doesn't anybody understand what a HSA is? and how it functions?

You'd not get interest on the money If you don't use it you lose it.
You put in money per paycheck - pre tax. You must use that money by the end of the calendar year, or you lose it. You can spend it on anyone in 'your plan' - but you can't take a trip to your favorite vacation spot using that money. You can't transfer that money to anyone who's not on your plan.

You are conflating an FSA with an HSA. And FSA is the use it or lose it concept. An HSA earns interest and rolls over the unused money from year to year and you take whatever you have with you, when you leave a company.

Apparently YOU are the one who doesn't understand what an HSA is!
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Old 03-03-2016, 03:49 PM
 
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Funny how the most market oriented health care system in the world, the US, is also by far the most expensive. The UK pay about a third of what the US pays with their single payer system. The US will soon go bankrupt if we dont move towards the only sensible solution which is a national health care system like every developed country in the world already has implemented a long time ago.
That is because US health insurance does not operate within a free market system. ALL health insurance is regulated at the state and now federal level. This regulation stifles free market principles of competition.

As the US regressively moves to "single payer," those nations who are living the failure of it are seeing an expansion of the private health insurance market within their countries. Now, those with money are seeking private coverage so they get quicker and better treatment.
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Old 03-03-2016, 04:11 PM
 
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Not for me. But I think it maybe years, not months.
You should move. I just did. Needed a new physician. Found one, called and was seen with two days. I have never heard of anyone in areas where there is more than one doctor for a county (think farming or mountain areas) where the wait to see a doctor for a check up takes months.
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