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Old 09-10-2016, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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https://morningconsult.com/50-state-poll/

Read it and weep, T-rumpettes.
These 50 state pols (whether it is Reuters/Ipsos, Google Surveys, Morning Consult) have come up with some really strange results. The methodology seems to be really lacking, as it seems to be simply a breakout of the larger national poll, rather than a separate and weighted poll for each state.

 
Old 09-11-2016, 12:37 AM
 
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ABC/WashingtonPost Poll (LV's):

Clinton 46 (+5)
Trump 41
Johnson 9
Stein 2
http://www.langerresearch.com/wp-con...16Election.pdf
 
Old 09-11-2016, 01:49 AM
 
Location: Caverns measureless to man...
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Oh - we're back to "polls matter" now, are we? I thought they didn't mean anything because they're all rigged for Hillary. Which is it this week, Trumpsters? It's so hard to keep track!
 
Old 09-11-2016, 01:58 AM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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Even people who will vote for Hillary can't bear the shame of admitting it to the pollsters.
 
Old 09-11-2016, 03:21 AM
 
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Trump keeps losing.

Clinton 45%
Trump 43.6%
The USC Dornsife / LA Times Presidential Election "Daybreak" Poll | Understanding America Study
 
Old 09-11-2016, 04:48 AM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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I don't think that LA Times tracking poll is very useful.
 
Old 09-11-2016, 04:58 AM
 
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I don't think that LA Times tracking poll is very useful.
I know it. But it's Trump and his suppoters favorite poll .
 
Old 09-11-2016, 05:00 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Capsuleneo View Post
ABC/WashingtonPost Poll (LV's):

Clinton 46 (+5)
Trump 41
Johnson 9
Stein 2
http://www.langerresearch.com/wp-con...16Election.pdf
Forget the +5 advantage - here's the take away from this poll:

- 46% of Trump supporters very enthusiastic about his candidacy
- 33% of Clinton supporters very enthusiastic about her candidacy

- 60%+ Trump supporters are following the election closely and 93% are certain to vote
- 45% of Clinton supporters are following the election closely and 80% are certain to vote

Perhaps there's something to the idea that Trump supporters are more fired up...hence the huge turnouts at rallies. It may be possible that more people show up to vote for someone they like (Trump supporters) rather than showing up to cast a vote against someone they don't like (dems voting against Trump).

Trump seems to have both sides covered because his supporters are more enthusiastic AND they dislike Hillary just as much as Hillary supporters dislike Trump.
 
Old 09-11-2016, 06:53 AM
 
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Some points to ponder...
5 takeaways from latest Trump-Clinton presidential poll | NJ.com


 
Old 09-11-2016, 07:19 AM
 
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You are assuming that Clinton voters are not fired up? We're not lunatics waving dicks in the streets and being obnoxious on political forums if that's what you thing "enthusiasm" is.

We've been here before. We'll do it again. We will crush Trump. We will not be silent against hate.
I'm not assuming. Look at the numbers.

Trump +13 on supporters enthusiastic for candidacy
Trump +15 on supporters following the election closely
Trump +13 on supporters certain to vote

"You're assuming Clinton supporters aren't fired up...we are silently enthusiastic" is the talking point used to dismiss this massive crowds at Trump rallies. However, in this case we have numbers on enthusiasm and perhaps the numbers indicate that drawing huge crowds isn't meaningless. This poll shows more enthusiasm among Trump supporters and huge rallies could also be an example of enthusiasm. It's logical to conclude that enthusiasm results in better voter turnout.

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