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Old 07-26-2022, 12:10 PM
 
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Don't think about it then. I just told you, I'm the most left wing liberal there is and I'd vote for either of them.
Yes because they are left wing liberals.

Duhhhhhhhhhh.

 
Old 07-26-2022, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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Republican strategists lost control over the plot about ten years ago. Very few top level Republicans actually support Trump or Trumpism or any of the less palatable elements of the "conservative" movement, but they are powerless to the rage machine and conspiracy theorists emboldened by Trump.

I recommend reading Why We Did It by Tim Miller.
What plot was that, the plot where they were supposed to play Washington Generals to the Democrats' Globetrotters for the next several decades?
 
Old 07-26-2022, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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I'm giving you a piece of advice.

People think DeSantis is going to be the GOP saviour. He's not going to get any Democrat votes. None. The LGBTQ community are not going back in the closet, not matter how much DeSantis and the Supreme Court wish it to be so.

Cheney and Kinzinger: these are your people, because they are the only ones that are prepared to face the truth of what happened on Jan 6th. That's requires a heck of a lot of guts and high moral standards.

Like I said, think about it.
Having thought, I have come to the conclusion that hell will freeze over before Cheney or Kinzinger would get my vote. Something tells me I'm not the only one.
 
Old 07-26-2022, 12:18 PM
 
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Here is how I kind of see it. The party out of power generally picks up seats in midterm elections...but their are exceptions like the 2002 midterms where the GOP picked up seats as the country was still in a state of shock over 9/11....so there are things that can change the equation. Midterms are generally a referendum on the party in power...so with Biden's low poll numbers, anxiety over inflation and doubts about the economy...in any other cycle this should be a red wave election...and it maybe. Here is the GOP's biggest threat. Whether you agree with their rulings or not the Supreme Court is extremely unpopular right now...And...they have the appearance of being the strongest Govt entity that is in power with their recent rulings. So what I see right now are three hurricane force winds coming from different directions and the wind gauge spinning in circles. Pro-Life voters have always been highly dependable and turn out, and they will definitely turn out again this cycle. Pro-Choice voters on the other hand are low propensity voters in off year elections.....No one ever thought they would actually see Roe / Dobbs overturned. Now you have the distinct possibility of a large segment of the voting population that will make the midterms a referendum on the Supreme Court. To what degree this happens and the increased turnout by traditional low propensity voters is something we don't quite have a handle on. Inflation and the economy will be powerful drivers of this cycle...but with the myriad of unprecedented variables at play...the possibility of this being a "wave" election is greatly diminished. And it is going to be in the State Governors and Legislatures where the real battlefield is going to be. I think the GOP will take the House but the Dems will keep the Senate and make gains in state legislators. You don't overturn the most defining characteristic of the culture war in the last 50 years and not expect it to have an impact on the body politic. There is one poll that is worth watching in all of this and that will be in Novemeber.

More left wing wishful thinking. You are soooo Democrat in a bubble that you believe in your own b.s. and the reality they create around you.

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I think the GOP will take the House
You think? It's gone! For Democrats to keep the house, they not only have to win ALL their safe races but win EVERY toss up race and still they are going to be short. They need to win safe red races on top.


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Now you have the distinct possibility of a large segment of the voting population that will make the midterms a referendum on the Supreme Court
Yeah, Democrat dream. Let's ignore the entire economy, drug epidemic and border and lets make the mid-terns a referendum of the S.C. instead of the President and his party in power. That is some lame Democrat talking point.

You really don't know what is coming. It's payback for the last 2 years that has been miserable.
 
Old 07-26-2022, 12:23 PM
 
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What plot was that, the plot where they were supposed to play Washington Generals to the Democrats' Globetrotters for the next several decades?

Anybody that suggest to read Tim Miller, a Jeb Bush former director and a Trump hater that writes for Rolling Stone and lives in Oakland, California it's the joke of the day.


Rinos do that, they call themselves "conservatives" but they are not. They hate Trump to the core and love wars.
 
Old 07-26-2022, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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More left wing wishful thinking. You are soooo Democrat in a bubble that you believe in your own b.s. and the reality they create around you.

You think? It's gone! For Democrats to keep the house, they not only have to win ALL their safe races but win EVERY toss up race and still they are going to be short. They need to win safe red races on top.


Yeah, Democrat dream. Let's ignore the entire economy, drug epidemic and border and lets make the mid-terns a referendum of the S.C. instead of the President and his party in power. That is some lame Democrat talking point.

You really don't know what is coming. It's payback for the last 2 years that has been miserable.
You maybe the one in the bubble here.
 
Old 07-26-2022, 12:39 PM
 
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You maybe the one in the bubble here.
You want to put your money where your mouth is? You know your posts are going to age so well. You have to be in a bubble to think 1/6 or Roe will be the most important issue in the mid-terms. People are struggling out there with the economy. Mothers paying up to $50 for formulas if they can get them to just feed their babies and it takes over $100 to fill a car to just go to work when food and everything went up but you want to sell us that the S.C. will be on the ballot not Biden and the Democrats in power?
 
Old 07-26-2022, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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But the republicans are the crazy ones. Gotcha.

Being opposed to contraception, falling like fools for every ridiculous tinfoil hat election theory Trump puts out, and thinking its ok to storm the Capitol are absolutely crazy. And why independents like me aren't flocking to them in spite of Biden being a historically bad President and polling in the 20s among independents.
 
Old 07-26-2022, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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Being opposed to contraception, falling like fools for every ridiculous tinfoil hat election theory Trump puts out, and thinking its ok to storm the Capitol are absolutely crazy. And why independents like me aren't flocking to them in spite of Biden being a historically bad President and polling in the 20s among independents.
Oh, two pages ago, you were "the most left wing liberal there is," and now you're an "independent."

I'm leaving now to go out for a walk in the sunshine, but thanks for the good laugh!
 
Old 07-26-2022, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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You want to put your money where your mouth is? You know your posts are going to age so well. You have to be in a bubble to think 1/6 or Roe will be the most important issue in the mid-terms. People are struggling out there with the economy. Mothers paying up to $50 for formulas if they can get them to just feed their babies and it takes over $100 to fill a car to just go to work when food and everything went up but you want to sell us that the S.C. will be on the ballot not Biden and the Democrats in power?
Did you even read my post...it was focused on Inflation, the economy, and the Supreme Court....I never said which one is going to be most important...inflation and the economy are probably going to be with a plurality...I'm just saying the Supreme Court will be with what are traditionally low propensity midterm voters....if they turn out...it will blunt any wave...that's just common sense.
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