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Old 08-03-2022, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Originally Posted by meekawal View Post
Voters vote for personalities, not the best candidate for the job, or they don't vote at all. You'd be surprised at how many people shout their opinions off the rooftops yet never get out and vote.

CA voters chose Newsom and look what he did for CA....high prices, homeless everywhere, etc., the list goes on and on. CA has been destroyed by him and his policies yet people keep voting him in. Why?

Voters in NY will never vote for anyone unless they are Dems and look what the Dems are doing to NY. Same thing....homeless everywhere, high prices, etc. that list goes on and on as well. Hochul is no different than Cuomo yet they keep voting for Dems. Why?

We know why people voted for Biden....they didn't like Trump's big mouth, etc. yet the country was stable, prices were low, border was under control, etc.

I'm astounded that people don't see that unless, like I said, they aren't voting at all.
Trump is a threat. Why else do you think its been 5 years of constant attacks parading as legitimate. It was not his big mouth, It was the fascist conspiracy of silence.

 
Old 08-03-2022, 08:17 AM
 
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Which policy of his don't you like?
You likely won't get an answer. Most of these people attacking Oz are democrats who would vote for anyone on the left, even a crazy like Fetterman.

They are huffing and puffing about Oz living in NJ and selling some sort of products they don't like....but none of them cared even a little when Hillary Clinton won a senate seat.....in NEW YORK!

Is Oz a perfect candidate? Of course not. But he'll have A LOT better chance of voting against the lunacy coming from the Biden/Pelosi agenda than Fetterman will. Fetterman will rubber stamp all of it, plus probably more. He's a Bernie Sanders supporter for God's sake. I guess he's "cool" because he wears a hoodie. For many, that's all the political sophistication they have.
 
Old 08-03-2022, 09:42 PM
 
Location: Land of the Free
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They are going to blow it. Look at the abortion rights vote in Kansas. It wasn’t even close either. Abortion rights prevailed with 59-60% in favor. This is a huge losing issue for the GOP in November. Turnout surpassed that of the 2020 presidential primaries. The November surprise is going to be losses by GOP candidates come November.

MD Governor's race gone. PA Senate looking like it could flip to GOP to Dem. Kansas showed how suburban voters are overwhelmingly pro-choice. For a +15 Trump state to swing 33 points on this vote was shocking.



Biden could not be more inept, and yet these midterms are likely to be far better for Dems than 2010 was.
 
Old 08-03-2022, 10:39 PM
 
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MD Governor's race gone. PA Senate looking like it could flip to GOP to Dem. Kansas showed how suburban voters are overwhelmingly pro-choice. For a +15 Trump state to swing 33 points on this vote was shocking.



Biden could not be more inept, and yet these midterms are likely to be far better for Dems than 2010 was.

is this your wishful thinking for the onslaught coming? . Kansas voted to keep abortions rights but with regulations and keep the state red. How is that helping Democrats in November? This is what the S.C. expected when they send Roe to the states.



How Kansas vote shocking? They voted for a liberal Democrat governor and weren't ready to take it out of the state's constitution. How is that going to save Democrats on the economy? Moran is going to kill Holland in November.
 
Old 08-03-2022, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Trump is the gift that keeps on giving to the Dems and so is RVW.
 
Old 08-05-2022, 11:51 AM
 
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is this your wishful thinking for the onslaught coming? . Kansas voted to keep abortions rights but with regulations and keep the state red. How is that helping Democrats in November? This is what the S.C. expected when they send Roe to the states.



How Kansas vote shocking? They voted for a liberal Democrat governor and weren't ready to take it out of the state's constitution. How is that going to save Democrats on the economy? Moran is going to kill Holland in November.
The shocking thing about Kansas was:

(1) the turnout, which was about double what us normal for an off-year election

(2) the margin by which the anti-abortion measure failed in a solidly red state

The turnout in upscale suburban Johnson county was outstanding, but the measure even failed in some rural Trump counties.

Abortion access is an issue that resonates with younger voters and college graduates. Will it be enough to upset the Republican Apple cart on November?

It’s uncertain, but Kansas demonstrated that the issue motivates the D base, including young infrequent voters, to vote. It could be the political equivalent of the dog finally catching the car….

…and getting flattened by it.
 
Old 08-05-2022, 02:19 PM
 
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Abortion access is an issue that resonates with younger voters and college graduates. Will it be enough to upset the Republican Apple cart on November?
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No! but keep posting more of your wishful thinking.
 
Old 08-05-2022, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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For what its worth. When you plug in what happened in Kansas...this is something you can't ignore.

https://twitter.com/lxeagle17/status...00718819872773

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There it is: for the first time since November, Democrats take the lead on the
@FiveThirtyEight
polling average for the generic ballot.

Environment on the day of the Dobbs decision: R+2.3
Environment 6 weeks later: D+0.1
 
Old 08-05-2022, 08:52 PM
 
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For what its worth. When you plug in what happened in Kansas...this is something you can't ignore.




Look at you, you pick 1 poll out of many that you like and then write "for what is worth". More wishful thinking. Las Vegas money odds:


  • Republican -750
  • Democratic +440
For Democrats keep the house, they need to win ALL toss up races with safe races (of course) and still they will be short. They have to win safe red races on top. I don't see how Democrats keep Congress under a recession. It doesn't matter how many times they try to trick the public in changing the definition.
 
Old 08-05-2022, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Look at you, you pick 1 poll out of many that you like and then write "for what is worth".
In case you weren't aware, JohnBoy64 was showing a moving average of many polls, not just 1 poll.

As for betting odds, recall that just a week before election day 2016, betting odds had Hillary beating Trump.
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