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Old 10-10-2022, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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What pisses me off the most is how Republicans (Brian Kemp and Walker are included in this) bit** and moan about being fiscally conservative and shoot down any type of spending but are the first to take credit for it and spend the funding as well and then use it as some political accomplishment - https://www.ajc.com/politics/kemp-al...KBP4IIXPZ5WFI/. Kemp and Republicans were definitely against the dollars so why didn’t he give it back or leave it for future projects?

 
Old 10-10-2022, 09:45 AM
 
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So let me get this right, our justice system targets black individuals to look for crimes?
Where did atl2021 say that in his post?

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I do question the 2020 election and I am stumped how Joe Biden, the racist segregationist outperformed Obama with the black vote.
How, pray tell, is Joe Biden a "racist segregationist" and how did he outperform Obama with the Black vote? Biden received 92% of the Black vote whereas Obama garnered 95% of the Black vote in '08 and 93% in '12.

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Also, Trump received the most votes from blacks than any republican before him. A bit strange to me.
He didn't receive the highest share of the Black vote, but it's not hard to believe that more Black voters cast ballots for Trump in '20 than in any other presidential contest. Remember, turnout was the highest ever recorded for the '20 election and voter turnout increased in all 50 states of the Union. And more Black registered voters exist now than at any other time in U.S. history.

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The truth of the pro-choice planned parenthood movement affects the black community the most with a goal to eradicate blacks. Margret Sanger, the founder of planned parenthood was a racist whose vision was to get rid of black people. This is the racist democrat party. They support abortion and the black community have the majority of all abortions in the US.
Newsflash: Black Americans are the Democratic Party. Not exclusively of course, but Republicans often talk of racism and the Democratic Party as though Black folks are just standing by on the sidelines as interested observers, weighing the validity of the arguments about racism and partisanship. We made our choice decades ago so I'm guessing Republicans are attempting to convince themselves when they make such arguments.

Secondly, Black Americans do not have the majority of all abortions in the U.S. The latest estimates say that Black American women had 38% of all abortions in America in 2019. Certainly that's quite a disproportionate figure which means they have the highest abortion rate of all racial/ethnic groups, but that is not at all the same thing as constituting "the majority of all abortions in the U.S." Furthermore, only 27 states and D.C. report abortion statistics by race so the truth is that we don't know what the actual demographic statistics are.

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I was pro-choice until the science has proved life starts at conception and when I became a Christian. The Bible backs up the science when life begins.
I'm always amused at folks who claim to be Christians but are regularly trafficking in and repeating lies that are part and parcel of their preferred partisan/ideological narrative as though the Bible never designated lying as a sin.
 
Old 10-10-2022, 09:54 AM
 
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Article VI of the Constitution of the United States provides that “no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”



Are Marxists like the new racists or something? Everybody throws this label around but nobody bothers to explain what it means or why it's disqualifying.



This is false: https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ction-case-dr/



You have failed to demonstrate such. Warnock has no documented history of inflicting domestic abuse on anyone, and that's the only thing you mentioned related to character. Theological differences are irrelevant as religious tests are not administered in the U.S. as a prerequisite for public office. And Marxist belongs with socialist, communist, fascist, nationalist, etc.--you can't be a member of Congress without having at least one of those labels pinned on you by political opponents. Voters largely tune out when this happens since they are virtually meaningless when everybody is supposedly at least one of them.

The truth of the matter is that Sen. Warnock is eminently qualified to occupy the office of U.S. senator. Carpetbagger Herschel Walker isn't qualified to be dogcatcher.
Warnock being a false preacher is an indicator of a character flaw. You can’t preach the gospel and be pro-abortion at the same time. Warnock was also advocating for Christians to vote for politicians who were in support of homosexual marriage.

Warnock is a proclaimed Marxist. That is an ideology he admittedly supports. This isn’t throwing a label around, that is his worldview. He has written about Marxism and the redistribution of wealth. And what’s with his fascination with Cuba? Why does Warnock embrace anti-Semite Farrakhan? Why did Warnock impede a child abuse investigation in which he was arrested for?

Senator Warnock is not qualified to be Senator due to his extremist left views that is antithetical to the principles and virtues of our nation.
 
Old 10-10-2022, 10:00 AM
 
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And yet you don’t even realize BiDeng is the sociopathic pathological lying charlatan whose about to get us into WWIII. BiDeng is a reckless low IQ president. How these truths elude the left is astonishing.
No one is a fan of Biden but he is far from a sociopath liar. I've heard him admit to his mistakes many times and say I'm Sorry, something you'll never hear from Trump (sociopath tendencies). You know that if Trump was still president he would be praising Putin for invading Ukraine while trying to hand him and Kim Jong Un top-secret documents.
 
Old 10-10-2022, 11:18 AM
 
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Where did atl2021 say that in his post?



How, pray tell, is Joe Biden a "racist segregationist" and how did he outperform Obama with the Black vote? Biden received 92% of the Black vote whereas Obama garnered 95% of the Black vote in '08 and 93% in '12.



He didn't receive the highest share of the Black vote, but it's not hard to believe that more Black voters cast ballots for Trump in '20 than in any other presidential contest. Remember, turnout was the highest ever recorded for the '20 election and voter turnout increased in all 50 states of the Union. And more Black registered voters exist now than at any other time in U.S. history.



Newsflash: Black Americans are the Democratic Party. Not exclusively of course, but Republicans often talk of racism and the Democratic Party as though Black folks are just standing by on the sidelines as interested observers, weighing the validity of the arguments about racism and partisanship. We made our choice decades ago so I'm guessing Republicans are attempting to convince themselves when they make such arguments.

Secondly, Black Americans do not have the majority of all abortions in the U.S. The latest estimates say that Black American women had 38% of all abortions in America in 2019. Certainly that's quite a disproportionate figure which means they have the highest abortion rate of all racial/ethnic groups, but that is not at all the same thing as constituting "the majority of all abortions in the U.S." Furthermore, only 27 states and D.C. report abortion statistics by race so the truth is that we don't know what the actual demographic statistics are.



I'm always amused at folks who claim to be Christians but are regularly trafficking in and repeating lies that are part and parcel of their preferred partisan/ideological narrative as though the Bible never designated lying as a sin.
Alt2021 posted a Huffington Post article in how the justice system fails black youth.

Biden did more than compromise with segregationists

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1021626

Let’s not forget BiDeng’s close friend former KKK member Robert Byrd who BiDeng eulogized. Biden is a racist. Have you not heard the numerous racist remarks spewed from his mouth?

Joe Biden did receive more black votes than Obama had and I find that remarkable considering Obama running as the first black president and Joe Biden being the racist segregationist that he is.

It is true, the majority of black voters block vote democrat, but the democrat party is becoming more white, wealthy, and elite while the Republican Party is more working class and becoming more diverse, especially among Hispanic voters. The Democrat party hasn’t done anything for people of color except make them more dependent on the government.

When 13% of the population make up 40% of all abortions, that’s an alarming figure and you cannot escape the fact that planned parenthood was set up by a racist and for racist purposes.

It’s amusing how you don’t point out your own partisan ideological worldview. From a Christian perspective, none of this back and forth really matters. God is in control of all matters. Everything that is is part of God’s plan even when we do not agree with His plan. There is nothing for me to lie about. I’m just pointing at simple truths and facts.
 
Old 10-10-2022, 11:47 AM
 
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No matter what side of the political spectrum you sit at, the overwhelming vast majority of Americans were appalled at the actions of these officers including myself. In my 20 years as a police officer, I had never seen such malfeasance in restraining a subject who is clearly high and emotionally disturbed.

As I have stated, police aren’t the issue in black neighborhoods, male blacks are the issue in black neighborhoods for 3% of the population make up 60% of the known murder offenders according to the latest FBI statistics. This figure also doesn’t include data from the LAPD and NYPD. Male blacks make up 7% of the US population and when you figure out age groups, about 3% of the population is responsible for 60% of the homicides. These are the facts.

A black person is more likely to be a victim in their neighborhood than a person of any other race being a victim in the neighborhood they reside in. Police are not the issue in black communities, full stop!
You've just admitted that law enforcement is obviously doing a **** poor job of protecting Black residents from violent crime in their own neighborhoods, and yet you contend that police aren't the issue in any capacity at all? Where are the prevention efforts, and why have homicide clearance rates involving Black victims been at the bottom of the barrel compared to other groups for several decades now? And how can you expect residents of these communities to cooperate with police in solving such crimes when they aren't able to protect witnesses that come forward? Furthermore, it's well known that in poor Black urban neighborhoods, the overwhelming amount of violent crime is perpetrated by a very small handful of individuals--who, if they do get locked up, are often back on the streets in no time thanks to loopholes in bail bonding regulations and a lack of commonsense guidelines regarding those eligible for bail. And that happens in communities both red and blue and are hardly the result of "woke" prosecutor policies in the vast majority of cases.

And it's also not by accident that the cities with the most violent crime tend to have the most corrupt police departments.

This is the best read on the subject I've ever come across by far: https://areomagazine.com/2019/04/09/...and-race-talk/
 
Old 10-10-2022, 01:11 PM
 
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No one is a fan of Biden but he is far from a sociopath liar. I've heard him admit to his mistakes many times and say I'm Sorry, something you'll never hear from Trump (sociopath tendencies). You know that if Trump was still president he would be praising Putin for invading Ukraine while trying to hand him and Kim Jong Un top-secret documents.
There are many True Believer ideologues who support BiDeng no matter how incompetent and reckless he is, but to deny Biden’s daily serial lying is delusional. What makes you believe Trump would give our enemies top secret information? Kinda like Bill Clinton giving the Chinese missile technology?
 
Old 10-10-2022, 02:01 PM
 
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Warnock being a false preacher is an indicator of a character flaw. You can’t preach the gospel and be pro-abortion at the same time. Warnock was also advocating for Christians to vote for politicians who were in support of homosexual marriage.
That has nothing to do with character when it comes to fitness for political office. Again, no religious tests.

Do you believe everyone that disagrees with you theologically have character flaws?

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Warnock is a proclaimed Marxist. That is an ideology he admittedly supports. This isn’t throwing a label around, that is his worldview. He has written about Marxism and the redistribution of wealth. And what’s with his fascination with Cuba? Why does Warnock embrace anti-Semite Farrakhan? Why did Warnock impede a child abuse investigation in which he was arrested for?
Do you have primary objective sources to corroborate any of this?

Also simply writing about an issue doesn't mean you embrace it personally. As far as embracing Farrakhan goes, lots of Black folks (particularly Black conservatives) do but not for any anti-Semitic sentiment but because of his strong advocacy for the Black family and safe, vibrant Black communities.

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Senator Warnock is not qualified to be Senator due to his extremist left views that is antithetical to the principles and virtues of our nation.
All I'm seeing is allegations on your part but no actual sources.
 
Old 10-10-2022, 02:05 PM
 
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You've just admitted that law enforcement is obviously doing a **** poor job of protecting Black residents from violent crime in their own neighborhoods, and yet you contend that police aren't the issue in any capacity at all? Where are the prevention efforts, and why have homicide clearance rates involving Black victims been at the bottom of the barrel compared to other groups for several decades now? And how can you expect residents of these communities to cooperate with police in solving such crimes when they aren't able to protect witnesses that come forward? Furthermore, it's well known that in poor Black urban neighborhoods, the overwhelming amount of violent crime is perpetrated by a very small handful of individuals--who, if they do get locked up, are often back on the streets in no time thanks to loopholes in bail bonding regulations and a lack of commonsense guidelines regarding those eligible for bail. And that happens in communities both red and blue and are hardly the result of "woke" prosecutor policies in the vast majority of cases.

And it's also not by accident that the cities with the most violent crime tend to have the most corrupt police departments.

This is the best read on the subject I've ever come across by far: https://areomagazine.com/2019/04/09/...and-race-talk/
Where did I admit police aren’t doing a good job in reducing violent crime in black neighborhoods and how is it the fault of the police that violent crimes happen in black neighborhoods? There is a much greater and more aggressive police presence in high crime neighborhoods than neighborhoods that are low in crime. It is high crime neighborhoods that most police are deployed. You’re telling me the police are more competent in white neighborhoods over black neighborhoods? That’s why white people aren’t slaughtering one another in their neighborhoods because of better police presence? Is it possible white people don’t commit acts of violence at the rate of black people? Your position is illogical. Is it possible the homicide clearance rates of blacks has declined because more blacks are victims of homicide?

The amount of oversight and scrutiny the police are under this day and age, I doubt corruption has anything to do with cities with having high crime. Many police departments are struggling to fill ranks and I don’t blame people not wanting to be police. I wouldn’t recommend anyone to become a cop unless you’re in a small town, county, or trooper. You have to have lost your mind to become a big city cop. Why would any cop conduct any aggressive proactive policing these days is beyond me. Answer your radio runs and fill out the report. Unless I have probable cause, I’m not even going to give you a second look. The days of stopping people for inquiry or reasonable suspicion are over. No cop signed up to be made a national example out of for justly doing their job.

Nearly all major cities with high crimes rates are run by democrats. It is democrat run cities that suffer most from high crime rates. Why are career criminals with a violent past walking among us. Why aren’t they getting stiffer sentences? Some police departments are better than others but a faulty police department is an inconsequential factor in high crime rates. The problem runs much deeper and is more complicated than we can understand. What I do know is, democrats are not the answer.
 
Old 10-10-2022, 03:08 PM
 
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That has nothing to do with character when it comes to fitness for political office. Again, no religious tests.

Do you believe everyone that disagrees with you theologically have character flaws?



Do you have primary objective sources to corroborate any of this?

Also simply writing about an issue doesn't mean you embrace it personally. As far as embracing Farrakhan goes, lots of Black folks (particularly Black conservatives) do but not for any anti-Semitic sentiment but because of his strong advocacy for the Black family and safe, vibrant Black communities.



All I'm seeing is allegations on your part but no actual sources.
When you are a Christian pastor who is pro-abortion and support candidates who are pro same sex marriage, I question you’re Christian genuineness, therefore your character. Warnock’s false teachings and beliefs do not stop there. The white church is the anti-Christ? What!?!

The true gospel of Jesus Christ begins with the God-given equal value of all human beings and lives as being created by Him, ordained by Him and loved by Him across every human identity of color, culture and geography.

Having doctrinal differences like whether the rapture is pre or post tribulation; there is no reason to get dogmatic over. But to twist God’s Word to support a worldly carnal sin is a false teacher. Such people are dangerous and are wolves in sheep’s clothing.

In Warnock’s “The Divided Mind.”

“To be sure, the Marxist critique has much to teach the black church. Indeed, it has played an important role in the maturation of black theology as an intellectual discipline, deepened black theology’s apprehension of the interconnectivity of racial and class oppression and provided critical tools for a black church that has yet to awaken to a substantive third world consciousness. Yet, Gary Marx’s analysis is flawed by a paternalistic bias with respect to faith, culture and experience that trivializes black struggle against the obduracy of white capitalistic forces and lumps all forms of black denominational and sectarian identity together in an undifferentiated way that hardly makes it possible for those who are its subjects to see themselves in the discussion.“

Warnock has also described Dr. James Cone, who repeatedly defended Marxism and used provocative anti-white language, as his “mentor.” Cone served as Warnock’s academic adviser at the Union Theological Seminary, and Warnock considered Cone to be the “father of black theology.”

In My Soul Looks Back, Cone called for the “total reconstruction of society along the lines of democratic socialism.” In A Black Theology of Liberation, Cone argued that salvation comes from being like God and becoming “black” — that is, adopting total political solidarity with the black community. He determined that “satanic whiteness” makes “white religionists” incapable of “perceiving the blackness of God”; therefore, they must purge themselves of said whiteness: “There will be no peace in America until white people begin to hate their whiteness, asking from the depths of their being: ‘How can we become black?’”

Warnock cited at least 34 separate works by Cone in The Divided Mind, including several on Marxism. At one point in his book, Warnock provided a way to “understand” Cone’s claim that the “white church is the Antichrist.”

Warnock praised Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam at a public forum in 2013, declaring that “we’ve needed the witness of the Nation of Islam” because the Jesus Christ-believing brand of Christianity was, in fact, “a slave religion ... the white man’s religion.” As Warnock put it:

“Its voice has been important even for the development of black theology because it was the Black Muslims who challenged black preachers and said that ‘you’re promulgating … the white man’s religion. That’s a slave religion. You’re telling people to focus on heaven; meanwhile, they’re catching hell.’ We’ve needed the witness of the Nation of Islam, in a real sense, to put a fire under us and keep us honest about the meaning of the proclamation coming from our pulpits.”

Talk about further false teachings and beliefs
Farrakhan is a detestable human and anyone who praises such a person ought to be disqualified. Farrakhan was unapologetically spreading detestable lies about what he called “Jewish, anti-black behavior,” blaming Jews for “the transatlantic slave trade, plantation slavery, Jim Crow, sharecropping, the labor movement of the North and South, the unions, and the misuse of our people that continues to this very moment.”

It’s not taboo to be Marxist these days. The Democrat Party, the media, Hollywood, professional sports have all embraced Marxism. Marxism is todays democrat party. Don’t be ashamed!

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