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Old 10-21-2008, 06:24 PM
 
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What I'm wondering is whether she would have said the same thing in a rural town in Alaska.

I doubt she would have; it might have affected her urban base.
Don't you think that part of the apology comes from the idea that Philly suburbanites, Cleveland folks, Akron, Pittsburgh, Miami, Orlando, Denver might not look kindly on being dissed?

 
Old 10-21-2008, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Denver
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To me it's supremely hypocritical for someone to say they represent "the Real America" while simultaneously calling the their opponents "elitist."

I think what this exhibits is a kind of small town elitism. There were no two ways to parse what she said -- she made it explicitly clear that she considers some parts of the country to have more moral, more hard-working, more patriotic, more innovative people than the rest of the country.

Her campaign advisor got on TV and said the same thing about "Real Virginia." Now some of you on this forum are falling into her trap and arguing about who is "better" than the rest.

I for one want a president who will represent all Americans, city dwellers and farmers alike. There should be no dichotomy between the two because we all depend on each other and we're in this together. Some of us like living in the city, other people like living in the country, and most people live somewhere in between. Why do we have to have this divisive and polarizing argument about who really "makes America work"?

Palin shouldn't apologize for her words being "misunderstood." She should apologize for the obviously elitist and divisive message she was using to intentionally drive a wedge between two very important segments of the country's diverse culture.
 
Old 10-21-2008, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/2...-destroyed-me/

She didn't apologize per say, she clarified. She said if anybody took it that way, she apologized
 
Old 10-21-2008, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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/sigh

Without them you are nothing. Though without you, they can go on. They can provide for themselves and their families. They are the ones that provide, they are the foundations.
Excuse me; you have no idea what I do for a living, and you no nothing of my background.

Look, the farmers, loggers, fisherman, construction workers, etc depend upon people who live in our cities to buy their goods and services...it works both ways.

Both rural people and city people are "real Americans", end of story.
 
Old 10-21-2008, 06:34 PM
 
Location: On Top
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She didn't apologize per say, she clarified. She said if anybody took it that way, she apologized
Some of us think with her brains, too late for her to flip flop.
 
Old 10-21-2008, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Hot Air » Blog Archive » Palin: If I had said what Biden said, the media would have destroyed me

She didn't apologize per say, she clarified. She said if anybody took it that way, she apologized
It was an "I'm sorry you don't agree with me" not "I'm sorry I said something stupid and divisive."
 
Old 10-21-2008, 06:36 PM
 
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She didn't apologize per say, she clarified. She said if anybody took it that way, she apologized
Took it which way? Literally?
Which is it: Does Mrs. Palin spout meaningless rhetoric as a way to pander to voters? Or does she say what she means?
 
Old 10-21-2008, 06:47 PM
 
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OK I was gonna give her a break until I read this:
"I'm not going to call him a socialist, but as 'Joe the Plumber' has said, it looks like socialism to him," she said of Joe "the plumber" Wurzelbacher.
??? Does she think we are stupid? This is another way of making an accusation without taking responsibility for one's words.

And from same article:

"That's been my forte as the governor of an energy producing state and as a former chair of the, of the energy regulator -- entity up there in Alaska," she said.
"[i] look forward to that and that's a matter of national security and, and our economic prosperity opportunities."
Why can't she speak with more conviction?

Source:

Palin discusses potential plans for America - CNN.com
 
Old 10-21-2008, 06:56 PM
 
Location: East Chicago, IN
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It's basically that whole mindset that some people have of the larger cities, that they're full of tree hugging, hippie liberal douchebags that hate the country. Whereas Butt****, Oklahoma is full of patriots that would do anything for Uncle Sam. Trust me, I live in suburban Indiana outside Chicago, and my area is full of both of these people, sometimes living in the same area.
 
Old 10-21-2008, 07:32 PM
 
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Don't you think that part of the apology comes from the idea that Philly suburbanites, Cleveland folks, Akron, Pittsburgh, Miami, Orlando, Denver might not look kindly on being dissed?
Definitely. I just don't think that her apology was sincere; she was just making excuses and backpedaling.
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