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Old 02-10-2014, 05:36 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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Middle Easterners are, strictly speaking, Caucasian, but few people consider them 'white' in a European sense.
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Old 02-10-2014, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Amherst, mA
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Most of that countries do NOT collect data on ethnicity, so where did you get those inaccurate numbers from? How do you define "white"? Most Lebanese, Palestinians and some Turks are also "white" or "light-skinned" even moreso than some "white" Spaniards or Greeks!
Also, France is 81.6 % "white" but Sweden only 74%?! Portugal and Spain being as "European" as Poland despite having Latin American and Moroccan immigrants?

Also, I don't understand your agenda. How is it a good process that the European "homelands" have decreasing native populations?

1)No Turks, Lebanese etc.. arent white..... and grow up.. some of these are estimates
2) I never said that it was a good thing
3) I cant tell what your geting at with the sweden and France part....
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Old 02-10-2014, 01:52 PM
 
Location: classified
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Honestly I don't think this is a good thing since Europe unlike the US, Canada, or Australia already has a defined culture with thousands of years of history to back it up and it makes a substantial part of those countries identities. Any immigration to Europe should be limited to smaller amounts and should consist of educated individuals and/or investors as opposed to uneducated laborers.
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Old 02-10-2014, 02:12 PM
 
Location: France
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Middle Easterners are, strictly speaking, Caucasian, but few people consider them 'white' in a European sense.

He's estonian
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Old 02-10-2014, 02:16 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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No they are not. You are not white until your skin is white!
So Italians aren't White? Jesus wasn't White?
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Old 02-10-2014, 02:29 PM
 
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So Italians aren't White? Jesus wasn't White?
Not to say most Japanese are probably whiter than Portugest/Southern Spanish/Italians. I guess the millions of Japanese are white.

I consider three racial groups in the world

1) Black (obvious)
2) Asian (North East Asian + South East Asian: Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Taiwanese, Vietnamese, Thai, Lao, Cambodian, Burmese, Mongolian, Malaysian, Indonesian etc).
3) Caucasian (those European "white", mid-easterners, north Africans, Indians, most south Americans - including Latinos/hispanics).

Of course, there are many mixed - which is hard to define. For some reason, Americans like to say a 50/50 Black/white person is black. I don't know why.
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Old 02-10-2014, 02:33 PM
 
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Hispanic is a really bad racial category; it's more linguistic than anything else and lots of people speak Spanish. So Hispanics can be mestizos, whites, blacks (look at the Dominican Republic), or indigenous.
Hispanic is NOT a race. Period. Anything believing it is is stupid.

I personally know someone with taiwanese parents born and raised in South America. Racially he is Asian 100% but culturally he is predominantly hispanic (he speaks Spanish as his mother language, far better than his broken Chinese).
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Old 02-10-2014, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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So Italians aren't White? Jesus wasn't White?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hSYxvEZm9H...rean-Jesus.jpg
Evidence.

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Old 02-10-2014, 02:48 PM
 
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1)No Turks, Lebanese etc.. arent white..... and grow up.. some of these are estimates
Turks are different due to their highly mixed and heterogenous background but regarding Levantine Arabs.... I don't think that they generally aren't "white".


Lebanon
http://samihalabi.files.wordpress.co...est-rain-2.jpg

Greece
http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/229150/greek-protest.jpg

You see, it's not that easy to put ethnic groups into categories. If Lebanese are non-white, so are plenty of Greeks and other Mediterranean people. Most people don't perceive Arabs from the Levantine areas as "white" because they aren't European by culture and geography.

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3) I cant tell what your geting at with the sweden and France part..
Your estimations showed Sweden having a smaller amount of "Europeans" than France. That CAN'T be true.

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Old 02-10-2014, 02:50 PM
 
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^^ those people are all white to me.
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