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Old 02-17-2014, 03:21 PM
 
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It might "balance things out" for USA may be, but not for the overall picture.
Because while Russians are migrating in droves, their "white" population has not been replenished in their own country - it's definitely shrinking.
Russia and many former Soviet Union members all have the same problems when it comes to population. Poverty, drug and or alcohol abuse, unemployment and host of other societal ills are driving down birth rates.

Keeping with current events, there is a reason why Russia and many Eastern European countries have orphanages full of babies and children needing parents. There is also a reason why porn and prostitution are big business in the same countries. It also speaks to why the surrogacy business is booming in places like Kiev. HIV/AIDS rates are growing as well along with TB infections IIRC.

The further away you get from major cities such as Moscow, the worse things apparently become.
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Old 02-17-2014, 03:26 PM
 
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It wasn't a query, it was a statement. I don't understand the point of the article you linked. It doesn't seem to relate to your comment, "not that much nor in a way you would imagine". And btw, I don't need the history lecture. I'm the product of a Russian emigre community, myself. That professor left out Seattle; it had a solid Russian community from the WWII period that BOOMED after 1991.

And it's not just Russians. It's Romanians, Bulgarians, Poles, ex-Yugoslavs, Ukrainians, and people from the Caucasus. US embassies have been handing out immigrant visas like candies.
Purpose of the article as with this (Sheepshead Bites » Blog Archive Russians Face A Hard Road To Immigrate To America, And Numbers Are Dwindling » Sheepshead Bay News Blog) is to tell that Russian/Eastern European immigration to the United States at least legally has slowed.

Don't know where you are getting numbers from but everything one has read and heard is that it is very difficult for Eastern Europeans including Russians to get to the USA via legal channels.
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Old 02-17-2014, 05:20 PM
 
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Russia and many former Soviet Union members all have the same problems when it comes to population.
Correct.
That's why I pointed out that it was not a case during Soviet times and explained why.
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Old 02-17-2014, 06:22 PM
 
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Unless you are a highly skilled and specialized, why would you immigrate to the USA and not stay in the European Union?
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Old 02-17-2014, 08:54 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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In the 90's, cities that had been designated by the State Dept. as destinations for E European immigrants (usually cities that already had established Russian communities from way back, for example) experienced a deluge of new immigrants. They were everywhere, it was weird. I almost had to ask myself, "where am I?" I heard Russian around me so much, I almost felt like I was in Russia. And now they've expanded to new cities, creating entire neighborhoods of Russians, Romanians, Bulgarians, Serbs. New Orthodox churches have been springing up. I don't have numbers, I just have the evidence I've seen and that friends have seen, as well as internet info about new ethnic restaurants & specialty grocery stores catering to communities that never existed before, that sort of thing.

And sizeable Romanian communities sprang up where there hadn't been any. And some of them shouldn't have been given visas; some were alcoholics or had criminal records, but it's so easy to bribe local officials to provide a clean record, don't you know?

And they're still coming, though maybe not in such big numbers.
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Don't know where you are getting numbers from but everything one has read and heard is that it is very difficult for Eastern Europeans including Russians to get to the USA via legal channels.
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Old 06-29-2016, 05:02 AM
 
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Why are you acting like its a good thing there are less European whites? I mean I could see why someone would celebrate new people coming into any country and assimilating to western culture, but solely celebrating the decline of white Europeans is racist. Would it mean the same thing if I said "Syria has one of the poorest fertility rates and highest death rates, Syria will be more diverse and less Arabs in their own land by 2030 yaaaayyyy!"
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Old 06-29-2016, 05:23 AM
 
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So, you are outright claiming that black people lack the intellectual capability to sustain a western-style democracy, even though one of the world's best examples is currently led by a man who is black, and is, presumably, very well educated?

African nations are in the situation they are because they are run by corrupt politicians who have no interest in providing their people with a good quality of life, and only want to line their own pockets. Do you think a black politician in England is going to have the same attitude as the president of Zimbabwe, especially if he was born and raised in England? Be honest now.

And, in any case, I am not sure why you are singling out black people, when they are a pretty small demographic in most European countries, with Asians making up a much larger percentage, and here in the UK, European immigrants from places like Poland and Lithuania are definitely the biggest immigrant group. I presume the same is true in Sweden, and other WE countries.

Do you have the same objection to White immigrants from eastern Europe, or are they the exception?
Hahahahahahahahahaha are you talking about Obama?? Dude all jokes aside, he is going down as the worst president in U.S. History. He has absolutely done nothing he said he would. Stirred up racial tension on purpose, divided the country up by race and bashed every religion possible, divided the bi-partisan system into two separate entities that simply hate each other and will not compromise especially the democrats who won't agree to anything the republicans propose even if it's is exactly what the democrats wanted in the first place, but because they proposed it, it is not agreeable. Let's see, less people are covered by healthcare now, yeah he created a even larger artificial middle class exclusively for minorities which was already in place and extremely ineffective and complicated, but it gives blacks something to do at the expense of our tax dollars, gave even more special privileges to minority communities which doesn't make sense seeing as how we are already unequal because the minorities get treated better than the white majority(they are 12% of the population but "deserve" half of everything just for being born black...nobody guaranteed white people jobs, they just you know had to study, make good decisions, pay bills, pay taxes, play by the rules, just to turn around and get rejected for being white and not "diverse enough"....racist). On a side note the democrats make the American public pay our tax dollars into programs we don't agree with and are not only encouraging bad behavior but providing a cop out of taking responsibility for your bad decisions like abortion, food stamps, healthcare, social security, public housing, etc. all are burdens on the rest of us and create even more poverty by allowing people to do dumb things and get rewarded for it for free. Children are a blessing and a reward for the hard work you've done and the wealth you have created for yourself to be able to have the right to reproduce, not a paycheck or a string of *****-ish promiscuity to exploit. he doubled the national debt, **** on our constitution, filled our country with unwanted immigrants, then gave them amnesty free healthcare and voting rights, took away a lot of veterans rights to own guns, and also took away a lot of veterans healthcare. Committed at least a dozen war crimes in Libya, Syria , Afghanistan, etc. led the offensive to saber rattle against China and Russia, made our nation look and act weak in front of the entire world, unconstitutionally imposed unwanted laws on states and communities that did not pass congress, made our public restrooms including schools transgender where grown men can be in the same bathroom with little girls because we're all just human right? No difference in gender at all and if the state refuse they cut their education funding...weird wonder what will happen when they get control of the food supply or water and we don't comply with their irrational demands? Maybe they might just punish our "intolerant" alternative view even though liberals constantly spout off about honoring different cultures and beliefs, being tolernant of other views and listening to others(as long it is the same views they hold, otherwise you will be shouted down or even beaten in the streets with no consequence)Has repeatedly tried to take own guns away from citizens little by little with more regulations (which the only reason it's in the constitution to own guns is for destroying a tyrannical government) by exploiting every single national "tragedy" (which most people are catching onto as either false flags or hoaxes created to impose more gun control measures and make the public feel guilty about certain minority groups....blacks(Charleston)....gays(Orlando) which suspicially both came at the same time blacks were pissing people off by getting special privileges and when the gay rights campaign started and forced transgender bathrooms and same sex marriage on states that do not support the ideas(kind of weird that everything thought he was gay years ago and Michelle was transgender....but he was against gay rights then, but now he's all for them....maybe the rumors were true) Fired 187 decorated officers and generals in the military and replaced them with who he wanted. Allowed women to join some of the hardest combat positions in the military(the women think they can hang with men because we have only been chasing camel jockeys in the dessert for 30 years...that's not a war. We'll see what these women think of war when Russia or China start fighting back) He raised corporate profits though right? Yeah because equality means getting the rich even richer....I honestly don't see how democrats even brag about the corporate profit margin. Oh but he created more jobs right? Yeah but at the expense of American tax dollars with his growing of the artificial middle class. not to mention when he imposed the obamacare bill, it says any body who works over 28 hours a week, their company has to pay their healthcare....which meant companies cut hours and hired two employees to replace one so they would not have to pay, which made two poor uninsured people instead of one which in turn made the employed rate look like a "rise". By the way wages haven't increased and inflation has risen so essentially the poor are poorer too. I mean I could literally keep going if you want, but I'll just say f*ck no and f*ck you, black people cannot run anything correctly, blacks are actively trying to destroy America because they hate that we won't just give them money and power without earning it, and Obama is a tyrant and possibly the worst example you could have ever given. I'm sure anyone who reads this and does not agree is a typical far left liberal who will come back with no valid arguments or even come close to proving me wrong in any manner, but will simply attack my character by calling me racist, sexist, cisgender, bigot, blah blah blah who gives a ****? I certainly don't and you won't either when we are in a third world socialist dictatorship run rampant with poverty all because you wanted to be PC bro and "tolerant" of everything and have this undeserved arrogance of superior intelligence that all liberals have even though some graduated an arts college, unemployed, drug addicts, who hang out in Starbucks all day complaining about and wondering how they are broke(must be those smart fellars, they must've ripped me off, those bigots)...tolerancy of anything and everything is not freedom, it's chaos. Beware Europe it's happening in America now and the end of white people is the end of the civilized society in the west. It will die with us. Have as many babies as possible and raise them up well and respectable...lord knows we need as many as possible to preserve our culture against people who praise awful behavior and celebrate the destruction of our race and our nations almost daily.

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Old 06-29-2016, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Near Tours, France about 47°10'N 0°25'E
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[quote=TurkeyShoot;44583636]Why are you acting like its a good thing there are less European whites? I mean I could see why someone would celebrate new people coming into any country and assimilating to western culture, but solely celebrating the decline of white Europeans is racist. Would it
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Old 06-29-2016, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Near Tours, France about 47°10'N 0°25'E
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Why are you acting like its a good thing there are less European whites? I mean I could see why someone would celebrate new people coming into any country and assimilating to western culture, but solely celebrating the decline of white Europeans is racist. Would it mean the same thing if I said "Syria has one of the poorest fertility rates and highest death rates, Syria will be more diverse and less Arabs in their own land by 2030 yaaaayyyy!"
If "arab" is understood as a racial/ethnic term, then Syria had never been really an Arab nation. It is Arab by language. Assirians, Medopotamians, Greeks, etc. Are the ancestors of Syrian people, not people from Arabia...
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Old 06-29-2016, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Kingdom of pain, Southern Europe
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