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Old 02-10-2014, 05:31 PM
 
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why does city-data have such a hard on for classifying what is and isn't white?
this topic has been beaten to death hundreds of times over.
Because people keep bringing it up and trying to exclude others from the club on flimsy grounds.
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Old 02-10-2014, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Because people keep bringing it up and trying to exclude others from the club on flimsy grounds.
then deal with it. race is an arbitrary construct, so it will of course be a gray area subjected to different opinions. can we agree to disagree and move on?
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Old 02-10-2014, 07:14 PM
 
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Inquiring minds need to know what the OP's criteria are, and to what extent he's thought through his biases.
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Old 02-10-2014, 07:25 PM
 
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fair enough. but i'll say it again, using race as an indicator of diversity is a very poor metric in europe since most migration takes place from other EU countries.
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Old 02-11-2014, 02:31 AM
 
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I feel for the guy from Sweden. It was a HUGE mistake to take in people from a failed state(Somalia) that have no intention to integrate and basically spit on their host countries culture. We have the same problem in Minnesota. The reason they came to our countries is because their particular culture was a massive failure. Why on earth would anyone want to replicate that failure again? I firmly believe that people get the country and government that they deserve. If your country is a sh..t hole and you have crappy leaders but you don't come together to affect change then that's on you and your sh..ty culture. Sharia law and poor treatment of women will not make a prosperous nation.
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Old 02-14-2014, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Amherst, mA
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Turks are different due to their highly mixed and heterogenous background but regarding Levantine Arabs.... I don't think that they generally aren't "white".


Lebanon
http://samihalabi.files.wordpress.co...est-rain-2.jpg

Greece
http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/229150/greek-protest.jpg

You see, it's not that easy to put ethnic groups into categories. If Lebanese are non-white, so are plenty of Greeks and other Mediterranean people. Most people don't perceive Arabs from the Levantine areas as "white" because they aren't European by culture and geography.


Your estimations showed Sweden having a smaller amount of "Europeans" than France. That CAN'T be true.

Sweden will probably have less Whites than France due to their massive immigration... France is ~85-88% White, and not decreasing fast .. compared to Sweden which lets in 30k immigrants a year that are non white... I wouldnt be surprised if Sweden iss the first majority minority European country
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Old 02-14-2014, 02:19 PM
 
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Most Turks are Indo-Europeans, and therefore: White. In the US, Lebanese, Palestinians and Israelis are considered "White". Italians, Spaniards, and Portugese are Europeans, and therefore "White". Serbs, Croats, Montenegrins, Bosnians, Slovenes, Macedonians, Greeks, Albanians and Kosovars are Europeans, and therefore "White".

What's your definition of "White"? Anyone from a Germanic or Balt background? What about Slavs? What about south Slavs? What about Georgians, Armenians, Circassians, Alans, and Ossetians? And Ingrians, Veps, Komi, Mari and Mordvins? If they're not White, why not? Let's see your criteria. Surely you've given this ample thought, since you felt it was important enough to create a thread about.

And while we're at it, what about the Sami? What about blond Sami (1/2 Norwegian or Swedish and half Sami)? What about blond Kazakhs?
I love how you said US.. when we are talking about Europe
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Old 02-14-2014, 02:32 PM
 
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I love how you said US.. when we are talking about Europe
Yes, I know. The point is that in some parts of the world (N. America being an example), Semitic peoples are considered "White". So what are your criteria, you haven't answered the question yet. And btw, would you happen to know if the Lutheran Church consider Jesus to be White? I would think that would have some bearing on whether Semites are considered to be White in Sweden.
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Old 02-14-2014, 05:50 PM
 
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For many, Europe is becoming a really diverse place! Here in INED Research we have concluded by 2030 many countries will drop greatly in European percentage ....

Countries By European or White Percentage 2010
Sweden: ~89.4%

Countries By European Percentage 2030
Sweden: ~74.0%
Planning an ethnic cleansing of the ethnic Swedes? These figures are impossible to reach in 20 years without dramatic purges. Not a single Swede would be allowed to reproduce..
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Old 02-14-2014, 09:49 PM
 
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Most Turks are Indo-Europeans, and therefore: White.
Technically, Indo-European is also a term in linguistics, and it does not include Turkic languages. It does include Hindi, Persian, and Urdu.


Turkic languages (including Turkish) are Altaic languages, which also includes Mongolian. According to some theory, Korean and Japanese are Altaic languages too (controversial).
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