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Old 03-17-2020, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Russia
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They are only talking about others, and only talking about Russia as in everything is fine, or that the gov has everything under control and there are no issues.
Gov has everything under control, don't worry.


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Old 03-17-2020, 02:38 PM
 
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They are only talking about others, and only talking about Russia as in everything is fine, or that the gov has everything under control and there are no issues.

"Others" who?


I posted their latest show, what "others" are you talking about?



It's all about situation in Russia regarding CV, or you don't understand Russian?
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Old 03-17-2020, 02:44 PM
 
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"Others" who?


I posted their latest show, what "others" are you talking about?



It's all about situation in Russia regarding CV, or you don't understand Russian?
Russian is my native language, I understand it well.

They are glossing over things.
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Old 03-17-2020, 02:51 PM
 
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Russian is my native language, I understand it well.

They are glossing over things.

OK, then start talking - "glossing" in what sense?
There are more cases that are officially known?
Sick people are not admitted to hospitals?

Hospitals are full of people with CV, that officials don't count?
Situation in Moscow "is different comparably to the rest of the country"?
( Are you even in Moscow? - good question.)

Please DO talk. By all means.
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Old 03-17-2020, 02:57 PM
 
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OK, then start talking - "glossing" in what sense?
There are more cases that are officially known?
Sick people are not admitted to hospitals?

Hospitals are full of people with CV, that officials don't count?
Situation in Moscow "is different comparably to the rest of the country"?
( Are you even in Moscow? - good question.)

Please DO talk. By all means.
Only now, yesterday actually, did they finally start saying some truths and taking some real actions. Before that, it was head in the sand, deny, deny, deny.

They are not testing, they are refusing to test many people, even worse, many people are refusing to even consider getting a test because they have been brainwashed that Russia is not effected by this. Only now, yesterday, is reality setting in for some, only in Moscow though.

I am not in Moscow, in St. Petersburg.

Hospitals are not full of people with CV, their own official numbers do not support this. The deaths are higher than reported as well, which is zero, because they refuse to investigate any death even if had symptoms.
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Old 03-17-2020, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Russia
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Only now, yesterday actually, did they finally start saying some truths and taking some real actions. Before that, it was head in the sand, deny, deny, deny.

They are not testing, they are refusing to test many people, even worse, many people are refusing to even consider getting a test because they have been brainwashed that Russia is not effected by this. Only now, yesterday, is reality setting in for some, only in Moscow though.

I am not in Moscow, in St. Petersburg.

Hospitals are not full of people with CV, their own official numbers do not support this. The deaths are higher than reported as well, which is zero, because they refuse to investigate any death even if had symptoms.
k350, 20,000 patients in Italy caused the collapse of their health care system, hospitals are crowded, thousands of dead, doctors work in 3 shifts and are forced to sort people, leaving many to die without mechanical ventilation. Please stop writing nonsense about hushing up a number of patients in Russia. An epidemic cannot be hidden in the 21st century.
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Old 03-17-2020, 05:37 PM
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Location: California
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THIS for some strange reason or the other does not worry me.
What I see is going on in the US in terms of markets/disruptions and the rest, is of a much bigger concern. ( Fracking is going to be buried now too I assume? Yet another hit to economy.)
On balance we import so our economy won't be hit by lower oil prices. Global production will fall and this will hurt our service providers though. That is a hit mostly because we have the largest oil services market in the world. That's going to happen regardless of Putin's stubbornness though.

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Oil is not at all an issue right now, Russia called it correctly to start this war, and they have the finances to do it. Saudi Arabia is in much worse shape for a prolonged oil war, and US private sector unless the gov bails them out, cannot go to war at all.
You need to realign your thoughts about oil with your above mentioned note about propaganda and realize Russia is playing chicken here. Russia is not financially equipped to pump more oil in the face of dramatic decline of demand. Right now its costing them 200 million dollars a day. They already cut their weapons budget so what do you think is next? Saudi's have way more money (and credit), lower costs and less people to feed. American fracking is much easier to turn off and it will turn off but that's 1 to 1.5 million bbls a day at most of excess (the rest are sunk costs). Plus Trump will buy our excess and shove it in our strategic oil reserve and we won't be exporting oil to a drastically shrunk market. Global demand has plummeted by 8 to 10 million bbls a day.

Russia and OPEC have to dramatically reduce production, not INCREASE it. If not we will see oil at 20 and Putin can watch the equivalent of $2 billion a week go out the door, and that money isn't coming back. Its already a crisis there and he can't afford this (and knows it). This is a big problem which needs more than propaganda to fix. A new pipeline to China isn't going to fix it this time...
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Old 03-17-2020, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Russia
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Map of the spread of coronavirus in Russia and in the world.

https://yandex.ru/web-maps/covid19?l...7.597784&z=2.4

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Only now, yesterday actually, did they finally start saying some truths and taking some real actions. Before that, it was head in the sand, deny, deny, deny.

They are not testing, they are refusing to test many people, even worse, many people are refusing to even consider getting a test because they have been brainwashed that Russia is not effected by this. Only now, yesterday, is reality setting in for some, only in Moscow though.

I am not in Moscow, in St. Petersburg.

Hospitals are not full of people with CV, their own official numbers do not support this. The deaths are higher than reported as well, which is zero, because they refuse to investigate any death even if had symptoms.
It seems that we live in some different realities. We have started to introduce precautionary quarantines in our country and in neighboring regions . Schools and universities are switching to distance learning. From each iron around the clock broadcast about the coronavirus and its dangers. Additional infectious diseases departments have been set up in hospitals. Who is silent about what, tell me?

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Old 03-17-2020, 07:23 PM
 
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Only now, yesterday actually, did they finally start saying some truths and taking some real actions. Before that, it was head in the sand, deny, deny, deny.

They are not testing, they are refusing to test many people, even worse, many people are refusing to even consider getting a test because they have been brainwashed that Russia is not effected by this. Only now, yesterday, is reality setting in for some, only in Moscow though.

I am not in Moscow, in St. Petersburg.

Yesterday?

What are you talking about - they were discussing CV in the news for a month at least - Wuhan, evacuation, border with China. Way before it hit Europe or the US.

If YOU were not paying attention, then it's on you, not "THEM."
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Old 03-17-2020, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Russia
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For example:

One of the "opposition" channels RBK.


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